DSR-1

Doug97 · Post by **Doug97** » 2005-08-23 14:15

I like the Accuracy International rifles, they're supposed to be very accurate and reliable.

This one's the 0.50:

Although I think you get better accuracy from the Lapua round:

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-08-24 00:34

forget .50 or Lapua go with the CheyTac its way better than both of those other to

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-08-24 01:09

We already have an Accuracy International Rifle, check the Media Forum, it's the Lupua.

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-08-24 01:18

CheyTac is more accurate than the 50 and the Lapua and at farther range, 50's accurate to like 2000 CheyTac is accurate to 3000

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-08-24 01:20

Tactical Advantage wrote:We already have an Accuracy International Rifle, check the Media Forum, it's the Lupua.

Actually, it's the L96A1 (PM or AW in 7.62mm NATO). The UK also uses the L115A1 (AWM .338 Lapua Magnum) in certain units, but it has not yet been modeled for the game. I have heard of the AW50 being evaluated/fielded for British Army EOD units, but don't know about any infantry or special operations units. I know that the M82A1 is in use by the Royal Marines and possibly the British Army.

As for Eastern Bloc anti-materiel rifles, I do not think we need to have a direct equivalent of every weapon for each team. It makes gameplay stale.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-08-24 01:22

i wouldnt mind seeing the cheytac but who uses it?

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-08-24 01:25

BrokenArrow wrote:i wouldnt mind seeing the cheytac but who uses it?

As of now, nobody except private individuals, as far as I know.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-08-24 01:26

oh, so then right now it has no spot in the game really. unfortunate since it is a pretty good looking weapon.

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-08-24 01:27

BrokenArrow wrote:i wouldnt mind seeing the cheytac but who uses it?

thats the catch.....

im sure TR or Eddie can give a more conclusive answer but to my knowledge no one uses it, i think Blackwater does but they dont really count, its a fairly new thing and its been dubbed an "assasination" weapon because of the accuracy and range

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-08-24 02:05

We could go with this, lol. But I believe this rifle has never seen action and was scraped during testing, etc. Man, talk about Sci-Fi looking...

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-08-24 02:07

i think Rising Conflicts is gonna have that thing

yuck

edit: is this it?

http://www.risingconflicts.com/gallery/ ... eyriws.jpg

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-08-24 03:09

yeah, the one and only, and for good reason in my opinion...

TerribleOne · Post by **TerribleOne** » 2005-08-24 03:11

Its big, Its ugly, Its probably heavy and hard to carry. Is it at all accurate??

Agent556 · Post by **Agent556** » 2005-08-24 06:51

as long as you arent carrying it :-p

Djuice · Post by **Djuice** » 2005-08-24 07:02

wouldnt want to use that steyr, the 15.2mm rounds probably weigh like 1kg each..

Agent556 · Post by **Agent556** » 2005-08-24 07:18

ah the stories of recoil....
"how'd you break your arm?" oh i fired a shot from a steyr iws-2000..

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-08-24 22:08

Yeah, the 15.2mm round is quite a hefty round...

Thats 8.15" x 1.02" at the Rim

uglygun · Post by **uglygun** » 2005-09-19 01:34

Beckwith wrote:CheyTac is more accurate than the 50 and the Lapua and at farther range, 50's accurate to like 2000 CheyTac is accurate to 3000

Only because of some controversial hype that surrounds the CheyTac.

Is it an impressive round? Yes.

But I have been following this round for going on 6+ years now, I'm a member of several long range shooting forums and have watched some BIG flamefests go on between a person who used to work with the project. Some of these flame fests can be found at the http://www.snipercountry.com Duty Roster, they took place back around 1998-1999 and you can do a word search through the forums for somebody by the name of "Dean".

Some of the claims made for the 408CheyTac were never substantiated in 3rd party tests, that's what led to the flamefests at the forums I frequented because people who were law enforcement or even military snipers wanted to get hands on experience with the guns to see if performance was as claimed. It always came down to the person trying to sell the rifle winding up telling people they would have to buy the rifle and the ballistics package inorder to find out, shooters are typically skeptical of claims and for 10-12k dollars the last thing they are gonna do is buy first then find out if claims are as advertised.

Nothing came of it for months and months, years even.

In fact, the first time I have seen a comprehensive 3rd party test of the rifle/cartridge was found here. And it was the first time I have read such glowing favorable reviews of the cartridge and the rifles chambered for it.
http://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimate ... 111#000000

Only recently on another site did I start to hear reports of the 408CheyTac and find out just what it's capabilities were. Guess what, most people dispise Lost River Ballistics which is the company that manufacturered the majority of the bullets for the 408CheyTac. From what I'm reading, the velocities claimed originally for the round are not realistic because bad things happen to accuracy as a result of high standard deviation and extreme spreads, this causes vertical dispersion down range due to velocity differences. From a person who owned 2-3 of these rifles his claims are that the round is quite capable but has to be downloaded a tad in his experience.

And a match grade 50BMG with match grade ammo comes back into the running in comparison to the 408CheyTac, certainly in accuracy potential and in some instances in long range capability. The long range capabilities of the 408 were only possible if the claims for the LRB bullets were true and that is a point of some contention back in the earlier days of the cartridge.

I've met the guys from EDM who make the Windrunner, they make one of the only 50Cal. rifles legal for sale in California now after the 50BMG ban. They rechambered their Windrunner for the 510DTC which is a modified 50BMG casing, they skirted around the 50BMG ban in Ca. by doing it. I've seen the 408CheyTac round and it is certainly an impressive round but I wouldn't put it ahead of the 50BMG by any stretch of the imagination if we are keeping things apples to apples comparison here, by that I mean if the 408CheyTac is going to use match grade bullets then the 50BMG should be using them as well for comparitive purposes. There are now some really great match bullets for the 50BMG out there, Barnes 800grn Solids or the 750grn Hornady Amax are favorites. Put these 50BMG bullets out at 2800fps and there is going to be a competitive round to the 408CheyTac's 419grn projectiles at a similar velocity.

Scoggs117 wrote:i think it would be a better addition that the spr, since it uses .338 lapua mag. and it just looks kick *** http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn38-e.htm

As for the DSR-1, I doubt very much that it will see much use in a military environment. They aught to call it the "Brush Snagger 2000", perfect for turning your rifle into a tangled mess of sticks and twigs while trying to manipulate it through the brush.

Look at the stocks designed for military use by McMillian and even those from Accuracy International, they are pretty sleek by comparison and most of them are intentionally set up for shooting off of the ground from a rested position behind a bag. Unlike the DSR-1 which appears to be more of a position minded rifle where it can be set up on a flat surface like a roof or sidewalk, perfect for law enforcement roles if neccesary.