The "Crewman" class weapon question

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-03-16 00:05

Out of curriosity why does the crewman receive a full fledged assault rifle? I would have thought they would take a carbine or SMG to save space in the vehicle.

TII · Post by **TII** » 2007-03-16 00:18

They are issued M16s or M4s just like everyone else in RL.

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-03-16 00:40

I thought many tank commanders were just issued a sidearm.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-03-16 01:11

Ah I had heard they got SMG's even today.

Post by **fuzzhead** » 2007-03-16 03:33

they carry carbine but we dont have carbine ready for every class, and it does not affect gameplay much...

eventually it will be changed, but there are alot more important changes right now than a guys rifle who will be inside of a vehicle 90% of the time...

ReadMenace · Post by **ReadMenace** » 2007-03-16 05:53

M4 w/ carrying handle & iron sights = yummy.

Longbow* · Post by Longbow* » 2007-03-16 10:30

ReadMenace wrote:M4 w/ carrying handle & iron sights = yummy.

yep . Mec should be given AKS74U , chineze possibly QBZ-97 & brits maybe C8A1 aka L119A1 ...

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-03-16 10:35

*cough*P90 for MEC crewmen*cough*

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-03-16 10:47

uzi for insursgnts, do they use uzi's?

causticbeat · Post by **causticbeat** » 2007-03-16 11:28

insurgents dont have crewmen

Jedimushroom · Post by **Jedimushroom** » 2007-03-16 11:38

lol, it's true.

I'ma thinking m4 for US, that little QBZ for Chinese and maybe an MP5k for MEC (to go with the whole Heckler and Koch thing).

Longbow* · Post by Longbow* » 2007-03-16 11:52

Jedimushroom wrote:MP5k for MEC

Why the hell do you think MEC ( if they ever exist as a regular army ) would purchase european weapons when they may buy cheap ones from former USSR countryes or China ? MEC tank crewmans should be armed with AKS74U , this weapon is designed for crewman & pilots .. and it is cheap .

KP · Post by KP » 2007-03-16 11:56

Longbow* wrote:Why the hell do you think MEC ( if they ever exist as a regular army ) would purchase european weapons when they may buy cheap ones from former USSR countryes or China ? MEC tank crewmans should be armed with AKS74U , this weapon is designed for crewman & pilots .. and it is cheap .

...and goes really well with the rest of the 7.62 NATO weapons we have? Sorry, Soviet weapons are no-go. And the MEC can afford it.

causticbeat · Post by **causticbeat** » 2007-03-16 12:06

Longbow* wrote:Why the hell do you think MEC ( if they ever exist as a regular army ) would purchase european weapons when they may buy cheap ones from former USSR countryes or China ? MEC tank crewmans should be armed with AKS74U , this weapon is designed for crewman & pilots .. and it is cheap .

I think PR is trying to dissasociate the MEC from the vBF2 image that "OMG IF THEY ARE A-RABS THEY MUST BE POOR LETS GIVE THEM CHEAP WEPONZ"

thats what the insurgents are for

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-03-16 12:06

Longbow* wrote:Why the hell do you think MEC ( if they ever exist as a regular army ) would purchase european weapons when they may buy cheap ones from former USSR countryes or China ? MEC tank crewmans should be armed with AKS74U , this weapon is designed for crewman & pilots .. and it is cheap .

Their main assault is made by H&K, so is the support gun and the special ops gun.

Longbow* · Post by Longbow* » 2007-03-16 13:48

KP wrote:...and goes really well with the rest of the 7.62 NATO weapons we have? Sorry, Soviet weapons are no-go. And the MEC can afford it.

I think that MEC shouldn't be based only on Pakistani & Iranian armyes . AK-74 , comes in 5.45x39 or it's brother AK-101\5.56x45 - probably the weapons of choice for any Arab army which aren't supplyed by US\NATO . I hope MEC aren't , yep ? They are cheap , reliable , accurate ( yes , AK-74 is accurate itself and AK-101 is almost the same in accuracy as M16A2 because of better quality of .223 rounds ) . Probably they also may buy G36's , but they are way too expencive compared to AK's .

p/s MEC support should carry PKM GPMG

KP · Post by KP » 2007-03-16 14:13

Longbow* wrote:I think that MEC shouldn't be based only on Pakistani & Iranian armyes . AK-74 , comes in 5.45x39 or it's brother AK-101\5.56x45 - probably the weapons of choice for any Arab army which aren't supplyed by US\NATO . I hope MEC aren't , yep ? They are cheap , reliable , accurate ( yes , AK-74 is accurate itself and AK-101 is almost the same in accuracy as M16A2 because of better quality of .223 rounds ) . Probably they also may buy G36's , but they are way too expencive compared to AK's .

p/s MEC support should carry PKM GPMG

Based off Pakistan and Iran? Since when?

Supplied by NATO? Since when? Just because they're buying weapons originally made in Germany, they are not supplied by NATO. FYI several countries make the G3, just like the AKs. And being supplied by a country means that this country would ship weapons to them for free (or return favours/political support, etc.). Buying them is something else. Please distinguish between these terms.
Or maybe you just misinterpreted my use of the term "7.62 NATO weapons" and thought that I was talking about weapons supplied by the NATO? In that case I can inform you that 7.62 NATO is a calibre, namely the 7.62 x 51 round that the G3 takes.

AKs are accurate? So? The G3s are damn accurate as well.

AKs are cheap? So? The MEC can afford them. And the G36s if you want to argue that point as well. But they are made by a NATO country, which you don't seem to like...

PKM? Why? It doesn't go with the 7.62 NATO weapons.

And, to quote a Dev: the G3 is here to stay.

$kelet0r · Post by **$kelet0r** » 2007-03-16 14:28

Crewman weapons?
MEC - G3KA4
USMC - M4
GB - L22A1/2
PLA - QBZ97

Guerra · Post by **Guerra** » 2007-03-16 14:43

G3 really is too European a gun for MEC to be using. But its rather deadly and accurate, although I really hate the sound for it. The G3 sound is way too soft. The damn thing is firing 7.62 rounds for goodness sake.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kK2mF5aLtJQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=u97wD1H9a8A
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SBDVmJN35T8

It has a louder, clackier, sharper sound to it.

Also, MEC would never use an UZI since its an Israeli gun.

Also, keep in mind that the middle east has oil, so they can buy guns and such. They have quite a lot of spending power. Guns themselves are cheap, even high end European and North American guns. Stuff like attack choppers, jets, etc are much more expensive.

Personally, I'd like to see MEC with the FN FAL. Atleast one class with it. Its just too perfect a weapon.

But yeah, give tank crew some submachine guns or carbines. Something smaller and with less range.

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-03-16 15:16

if the mec use 7.62 why his specops rifle use 5.56 ??