L86 is no match to M14 or SVD

[Dimitrov**OF**]

Have no idea why you think SVD is less accurate than other DMR. You have to try and shoot with it at 600 - 800 m to see how accurate it is.
And why devs should change SVD with G3 .

[Desertfox]

facts or gtfo
opinions don't mean anything

Isnt the bold also an opinion?

[ReadMenace]

Have no idea why you think SVD is less accurate than other DMR. You have to try and shoot with it at 600 - 800 m to see how accurate it is.
And why devs should change SVD with G3 .

I think their complaint is that it is not an extemely accurate rifle in the real world; the SVD in PR is awesome, and I love it to death.

[Dimitrov**OF**]

Actually it is accurate enough as a rifle!
Do not forget that 80% from the perfect shot is made by the shooter, not by the rifle

[bobfish]

How realistic should kit make up be?

Cause I'd like to see the AS50 make an appearance as the British DMR, and perhaps the USMC one as well.. but that largely depends on how much unit penetration it will receive over the next few years, at the moment it is only in service with the US Navy Seals and select SBS and SAS units. It is however, the perfect DMR imo.

Though the reason the L86 is still a viable choice for Marksman is the range is significantly higher than the L85.. however it's low calibre rounds means you've got to be a pretty amazing shot to actually use it at ranges over the standard 400m of the L85

You could of course take another approach.. the British Army does use two sniper rifles, the L96 and the long range L115A1. The L96 is effective up to 900m for accuracy (L86 is supposedly up to 1100m lol), and up to 1100m for supressing fire. The L115A1 is effective up to and beyond 1100m for accuracy, with no published figures for it's upper range limit. Only problem with these are they are both bolt action rifles, but infinitely better than an L86 for ranged firing.

EDIT: There is always the Heckler and Koch's MSG 90, it's not currently used by the British forces in any capacity,but H&K do currently hold a weapons contract with the British forces.

[KP]

The MEC is getting the G3SG/1, the Brits will have to make do with what they have to make do with IRL.

[bobfish]

In real life they don't really have Marksmen.. it's three IWs and a Support weapon, the L86 was used for a while but was never really used for sniping, just supression fire. If the idea is to have a Marksmen, then a rifle capable of filling the role should be issued, if not, then the L86 is an okay Support weapon but it needs more ammo to fulfill it's intended Support role.

Obviously the Minime should be introduced as well as the actual Support kit weapon.

[Jonathan_Archer_nx01]

In real life they don't really have Marksmen.. it's three IWs and a Support weapon, the L86 was used for a while but was never really used for sniping, just supression fire. If the idea is to have a Marksmen, then a rifle capable of filling the role should be issued, if not, then the L86 is an okay Support weapon but it needs more ammo to fulfill it's intended Support role.

Obviously the Minime should be introduced as well as the actual Support kit weapon.

...and low recoil because of bipod.

[Dimitrov**OF**]

A big requet for the Devs - Don't replace the SVD ,
just put all the weapons that will be added as a possible change like in Vanilla , so everyone can play the gun that wanted to.

[Jonathan_Archer_nx01]

A big requet for the Devs - Don't replace the SVD ,
just put all the weapons that will be added as a possible change like in Vanilla , so everyone can play the gun that wanted to.

You must be kidding!?

Away with SVD!

Can't wait for G3SG/1

[[uBp]Irish]

that does look pretty pimp.

i always thought of the svd as the poor mans pee shooter...that actually could kill stuff.

[Switch]

It seems to me that the british marksman is a terrible let down compared to british rifleman. You get very little ammo and no noticable scope benefit over rifleman. The rifleman gets 8 clips and infinite ammo. And armor.

[D_LaMz]

You must be kidding!?

Away with SVD!

Can't wait for G3SG/1

wtf airsoft

[bobfish]

Bah, give us this!

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn67-e.htm

[Bob_Marley]

1. Not general British, MEC, PLA or US issue, current or planned.

2. Its a freaking .50 BMG AM rifle, FFS! What kind on nut case uses that sort of thing as a DMR?

anyway, moving rapidly away from the .50 insanity before it engulfs the thread, the British forces dont really posess a DMR, the closest thing they have to such a weapon is the L86A2, as it is a section level issue weapon intended for longer effective range than the issue rifle or the new LSW. Its an asymetric disadvantage (which will be compensated for in other areas, for example the fact the British posess a more powerful true sniper rifle than the other factions).

[Mongolian_dude]

From what im getting, i think it wise to up the amount of clips and maybe, maybe, reduce the deviation and/or recoil of fully auto on the L86?(That is 50/50 that it isAbsolute BS that last part about deviation and recoil).

...mongol...

[bobfish]

Aye, I'm merely saying either give the British Marksman a Marksman's rifle, or adjust the L86's kit to suit it's real role, that of a support weapon. Cause the British don't have a DMR.