Question about civilians

gerardnm · Post by **gerardnm** » 2007-03-27 09:34

How about making it so every insurgent is a civilian until he fires at the USA?

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » 2007-03-27 09:40

gerardnm wrote:How about making it so every insurgent is a civilian until he fires at the USA?

Nope, wouldn't work, and makes no sense.

Situation A: Insurgent walks around until he finds the opposing force. He has his weapons out, but is able to walk closer and closer without worry of being engaged. He then fires his shot... being only 5 feet away, the shot hits and kills the opposing force. He is now able to be engaged, and is killed.

Result: Free and trouble free way of killing at least one soldier until he himself is able to be engaged.

Do you see why it makes no sense?

AOD_Morph · Post by **AOD_Morph** » 2007-03-27 10:24

Thunderklumpf wrote:Such pussys those americans are....LOL

go home baby
Semper Fi You little MoFo

and back on topic that whole civilian crowding around insurgents to protect them is real life
I.E. Battle of Mogadishu

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » 2007-03-27 12:54

AOD_Morph wrote:go home baby
Semper Fi You little MoFo

and back on topic that whole civilian crowding around insurgents to protect them is real life
I.E. Battle of Mogadishu

Really? Why would any right minded person stand in front of an armed man about to go into battle? Meat shields.

Dyer |3-5| · Post by **Dyer |3-5|** » 2007-03-27 14:46

'[R-MOD wrote:Dylan']Really? Why would any right minded person stand in front of an armed man about to go into battle? Meat shields.

Do you remember the "human shields" that went over to Iraq at the beggining of the war? People are pretty much insane....

Another thing that would be cool is if the civilian could pick up like a "suicide kit" or somthing that give him an explosive vest. When some poor unsuspecting American runs up to arrest him...BOOM. To be fair, make the skins of them very simlar, but slightly different, mayb somthing in his hand (a detonator) or he is a little fatter. Enough so that if you are paying attention you can kill him before he comes in range, but it also gives him a chance to get close to you.
Just a suggestion but I think that would be really, really, really cool

Lowe · Post by **Lowe** » 2007-03-27 15:24

As a penalty for that you'd need a 5 min respawn time though, else all you'd see would be suicide bombers!

Maistros · Post by **Maistros** » 2007-03-27 15:32

nevermind.

Dyer |3-5| · Post by **Dyer |3-5|** » 2007-03-27 16:49

Lowe wrote:As a penalty for that you'd need a 5 min respawn time though, else all you'd see would be suicide bombers!

For the kit, not the person. If it was a "pickup kit" then they could be limited and have a long respawn time on them. It would also force the user ( if they had any brains at all) to only use it when there would be a great reward and to hide so that he is not captured/arrested/shot before he has the oppertunity to use it.

leemunger · Post by **leemunger** » 2007-03-27 23:21

another idea would be to use the civilians to resupply or heal the usmc or insurgents more than likely the insurgents unless for there is a map based on us soil (which would could make for an interesting map)

Master Shake · Post by **Master Shake** » 2007-03-28 02:48

leemunger wrote:another idea would be to use the civilians to resupply or heal the usmc or insurgents more than likely the insurgents unless for there is a map based on us soil (which would could make for an interesting map)

This would work if and be realistic if they made a "Detroit City" Map you could send the troops in after another riot in the stands with Pistons causing the huge Muslim population to follow Rasheed Wallace and his quest to destroy downtown......the catch for the USMC is that they actually win after Detroit has been destroyed........you could call it "Detroit Rock City"....hehe

Master Shake · Post by **Master Shake** » 2007-04-27 12:22

How are the civillians coming anyway?

.:iGi:.BLACKWIRE · Post by **.:iGi:.BLACKWIRE** » 2007-04-28 12:56

What I want to know is, as a civilian, will we be handed out MREs by the corps?
I want some tasty Chicken Tetrazzini.

Seirrah · Post by **Seirrah** » 2007-05-03 11:40

This may have been asked before (I have tried to look)...

What is going to stop a group of 5 civilians being a humanshield around a couple of insurgents as they go from flag to flag? You couldn't 'arrest' them as you'd get shot, and you can't shoot at them (civs or insurgents) as I assume you'll be punished for killing civs.

edit: Okay I just read that you can't kill civilians. But can they 'absorb' bullets? If so they'd still be a human shield.

Seirrah · Post by **Seirrah** » 2007-05-03 12:05

I'm not disagreeing, but this is from the wiki...

'USMC/British players cannot kill Civilians, however they can "capture" Civilians with their knife. 'Captured' Civilians will recieve a longer respawn timer.'

So..
If they can be killed then you can use them as a human shield (as no soldier is going to want a huge respawn), and if they can't be killed and 'absorb' bullets (eg. Infinite health) then they could still be a human shield.

Also, as they have no body armour, and are therefore faster than most soldiers (except special forces), couldn't they always block the view of soldiers by standing 20m or so from them. If the soldiers try to arrest them they'd just run.

Dyer |3-5| · Post by **Dyer |3-5|** » 2007-05-03 13:05

I would be both suprised and outraged if civilians can "absorb" bullets. I think what it means is that while you technically "can" kill them, you are not allowed to, and you will be punished accordingly.

Seirrah · Post by **Seirrah** » 2007-05-03 13:22

If they can be killed can you see the problem of people using 10 civilians surrounding 2 soldiers while capturing a flag? The US/British would not be able to shoot at this mob from range (except snipers).

I hope a Dev can clear this up for us when they get a chance.

Hfett · Post by **Hfett** » 2007-05-03 13:45

You CAN kill civilians

But will suffer spawn time penaltys

When they say you cant kill, they mean you will should not kill them (for your own good)

It is better to capture them

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-05-03 13:47

You gotta do what you gotta do huh...