v0.6 - Kits

[Grasli]

What changes are you doing to the kits in v0.6?
I have heard that you are removing the AP class and putting the Claymores and the binoculars in the Engineer class. Thats ok, but what do you do with the weapon the AP class have? On some maps the AP class has a weapon with "scope", which the other classes does not have. So, if you are removing the kit/class, this weapon will be removed to? I hope not..
=)

[vonWitzleben]

The rifelman anti-personel, wich you refer to in your post, has no scoped rifle in any of the, so far, integrated factions. The only refleman class wich has a scopeed rifle is the rifelman with no suffix, carrying the ammo bags. It has scoped rifles for PLA and GB members.

There are plans to equip the USMC and MEC riflemen with scopes, too, but that will be in a future release.

So, no need to worry about your scoped rifles

[Leo]

They're giving the grenadier a scope AFAIK, and the G3 will make you shit your pants.

[Top_Cat_AxJnAt]

THE US TEAM:

2 - 7.62mm semi automatic scoped rifles per 32 players allowed.


THE MEC TEAM:

32 - 7.62mm automatic scoped rifles per 32 players allowed.

ALthough the US scope is and will probaly have a higher level of zoom the US side are all round fcked till they get there ACOGs.

[Guerra]

Scoped and grenade launcher is absurd. That would be too heavy and impractical to carry into battle. So bulky and cumbersome. I think only SL and Rifleman should get scoped rifles. (Besides the natural snipers, marksman and perhaps spec ops)

[causticbeat]

THE US TEAM:

2 - 7.62mm semi automatic scoped rifles per 32 players allowed.


THE MEC TEAM:

32 - 7.62mm automatic scoped rifles per 32 players allowed.

ALthough the US scope is and will probaly have a higher level of zoom the US side are all round fcked till they get there ACOGs.

yeah, their superior choppers, tanks, AT weps, and everything else arent enough

[Wasteland]

You forget that they have a scoped fully auto M4.

[Randleman5102]

Scopes and grenade launchers are used all the time in Real life.

[Top_Cat_AxJnAt]

I have seen many a picture of both US and UK soldiers carrying all the below at one time:

1) Scoped assutl rifle

1) Grenade launcher

1) DIsposable AT rocket

- mutliple smoke grenades and 6 + 40mm shells for GL.

This clearly proves how much equipement RL soldiers can and do carry, therefroe the PR kit loads out are a compramise between realism and in-game balance.

[wpgcivic]

Now are these scopes thats magnify or are they opticle sights?

[Tralle]

THE US TEAM:

2 - 7.62mm semi automatic scoped rifles per 32 players allowed.


THE MEC TEAM:

32 - 7.62mm automatic scoped rifles per 32 players allowed.

War is unfair... deal with it

There must be a reason why the usmc uses 5.56mm ammo and not 7,62...

can anyone tell me?

[Bob_Marley]

THE US TEAM:

2 - 7.62mm semi automatic scoped rifles per 32 players allowed.


THE MEC TEAM:

32 - 7.62mm automatic scoped rifles per 32 players allowed.

ALthough the US scope is and will probaly have a higher level of zoom the US side are all round fcked till they get there ACOGs.

To put it simply:

the US team have been imbalanced since vBF2. They need to be taken down a peg or sixteen.

[Top_Cat_AxJnAt]

I LoVE this difference!!!


My comments stated the facts, and use of "us are fcked" was me mearly to effasise the pwoer of the G3 in infantry combat.

Although does any one know how many of the new G3 models will make it into 0.6 IF any?

I really hope them all, cos i dislike having a different weapon to carry the GL launcher, standardisation all the way! (i know it is mearly a matter of time though before all are implamented)

[gazzthompson]

if im right... 5.56 is used by US and UK because it has less recoil increasing accuracy.

[PIMP{UK}1]

From what I was taught was that 5.56 was chosen because it will bounce off bones, so if the entry wound is in the leg then the exit wound could be your arm or leg etc, rather than go in one side and come straight out the other like 7.62.

Another theroy is that its designed not to kill becuase casualties cost more money in treatment and pensions etc. Remeber this was when the Cold War was at its height.

5.56 is the standard NATO round.

I've said too much, whats that van outside.........ahhh HELp

[interceptor7]

There must be a reason why the usmc uses 5.56mm ammo and not 7,62...

can anyone tell me?

-Lighter weight/carry more.
-Less recoil/easier to shoot/better control in full auto/girls in the military can't handle 7.62's recoil (ok, j/k, but really...).
-Most infantry engagements within 300 yds/no need for more powerful round.
-Unsubstanciated rumor from the 60s that refer to 5.56 being designed to injure instead of kill, thereby taking 3 enemies out of the fight (1 shot, 2 to carry him away). BTW, if anyone can provide actual PROOF, pro or con, regarding this rumor, please let me know.
-Most importantly, change of strategies emphasizing suppression fire (hence the need for more ammo).

BTW, USMC (and Army) use 7.62 in M240 MG, after they realized the 5.56 has poor penetration in building materials ...duh!(I'd love to see an M240 in-game!).

[[UGK]_Dr.Phil(SF)]

for the US when the M16A4 gets implemented there should be a mix of aimpoints and ACOG and in the case of the grenedier should just stick with iron sights

[Sneak Attack]

because 5.56 had less recoil and you can carry more bullets and we were in Vietnam so all we did was spray and pray and we want lots of ammo because fire suppression is the name of the game in war.

[eggman]

Kits and Classes are.. changed