Project Reality Tournament

Dukemen · Post by **Dukemen** » 2005-09-21 23:18

I play forgotten honor (i'm 1Lt. now at #3 campaign.)
Some tournament like F|H at BF2/PRMM looks good!
Count me in to play.

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-09-21 23:19

i can understand why you feel the market is flooded but i for one want to play this mod in a tournament format this would be the way to do it

Airborne · Post by **Airborne** » 2005-09-22 00:38

I can tell you for a fact that a tournament can help a mod. Look 21cw just put out our new mod and got 2000 new members in the last week.

requiem any help we can give you all you have to do is PM me or have Hickman get with me, we well help you out in anyway we can. As a DEV in two mods 21cw and POE I can tell you, your in for some hard work. I would say let the DEV team oversee the tournament but pick people you trust to run it. Running a tournament is harder than making a mod.

Again PR any help we at 21cw WAW DOD GA or TW can give we are just a PM away.

Airborne

TaZ · Post by **TaZ** » 2005-09-22 00:39

Beckwith wrote:after playing in tournaments since shortly after getting BF42 i can say it is by far the best way to play battlefield i now rarely pub because once youve expirienced tournament style play nothing else comes close

I completely agree...

I began in tourny experience with bf42, but i only really got interested in them with bfv. I was one of the many that got napalmdawn.com off & rolling and continued to play with them for 5 campaigns, varying from a private to master gunney, to captain of the airforce. Tourny's provide you the ability to play the game at a whole new level. For the first time, those mapped strageties actually come into effect. The way it worked at napalmdawn is that we would have the entire week to practice amongst our team, battalion, etc...all the way down to companies and squads, and then come saturday, you put everything you learned and practiced to good use to win the battle. Tournaments also allow you to make some tremendous friends that you will continue to talk with for a long time to come, in my opinion, this is the way to go.

P.S Sorry about the huge paragraph, and sorry for not lending my 2 cents lately, my pc is horrible and i just haven't gotten around to reformatting.

DAWG · Post by **DAWG** » 2005-09-22 01:28

An excellent idea, I have a fair bit of experience from several of the aforementioned tournaments. One thing I would suggest, is that before setting it up, the most important things to consider is how it relates to the community and the mod. Will it be self sufficient based on pure promotion of PR or will it have a pay to play element, this allows the tournament to support itself and the mod in a monetary way, but it may cause a lot of players to shy away from the tournament. What kind of resources are to be made available to the divisions, it is my experience that there should be at least one game server used as the test server and main battle server and 1 server made available to each division, depending on numbers it may require more servers if more than 2 divisions are to compete. Using this sort of set up allows everyone access to a server at all times and negates the chances of one team being unable to practice properly because they don't have server privileges and the main server is being utilized, this may sound minor, but I had many a blazing row with opposition forces as well as admins concerning access to servers on an even occurance. Maps for the tournament must be prepared in advance, it causes chaos when the map is selected randomly every week and is then changed at a moments notice because someone found a problem late in the day, which leads me on to my next point, the tournament should have some sort of story or scenario tied in, it increases the interest factor when you know what you are fighting for and know that winning the map means more than simply that, each battle should be a victory in itself, however, winning the right battles and securing resources should be equally important. A scenario and plenty of rewards and personal goals to be acheived are paramount in making people come back again and again, this may sound daft, but UK_Force and Beckwith know full well the benfits of making a divisional forum interesting and colorful, awards of medals and certifications can be a powerful draw for many people. Too many tournaments I have seen around have not thoroughly considered the military aspects at the heart of what they are trying to do and suffer greatly for it.

In short - YES, I would be happy to be involved in a PR tournament. If you want it to be the best and most realistic tournament out there; then I say to those that would play, forget who you are 9 - 5 remember that when you log into the game you become that TAG. Respect the chain of command and become a respected member of your team, if you can't give respect to a superior then no one gives it to you. DAWG is a totally different entity from the man who wakes up in the morning and goes to work. And above all else remember it is a game to be enjoyed.

Beckwith 833 posts - Jebus that is good, there is no way I'll outpost you here. Or is there? Are we allowed to post monthly Bikini Babe Contests?

LRRP · Post by **LRRP** » 2005-09-22 01:37

Personaly I feel it would be great for the community. I am part of the BF2C Tourny and you must realise that there is ALOT of work that is needed to be put into a success full tourny. If you feel your up to the challange then I say yes, wold love a Tourny with PR realism and add ons.

DAWG · Post by **DAWG** » 2005-09-22 01:41

It's a huge burden of work, however when it is done correctly the rewards are more than worth that little bit of effort. There is already a sizeable community for PR, and I am certain that finding volunteers to fill roles and make sure all the t's are crossed etc. won't be a problem.

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-09-22 02:32

glad to see you made it DAWG, as for the post count im sure it wont take you long to come up with your own respectable number

that being said as for the chances with the tournament, i think this tournament with some agressive advertising can certainly make this community alot bigger as well as the tournament, more so than anyother mod (with exception of Forgoten Hope) this mod can strengthen its community on both sides of the atlantic with the inclusion of the Brit's gear and equipment youll be able to drawn in IMHO probably the second largest BF2 community there is as well as draw interest from alot of other euro communities,

StormRavn · Post by **StormRavn** » 2005-09-22 02:40

Beckwith wrote:i can understand why you feel the market is flooded but i for one want to play this mod in a tournament format this would be the way to do it

hell if this was finished i would certinaly play it in any style

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-09-22 02:53

im pretty sure wed be using the finished product were not gonna jump in head first rite away we want to see what the community feels towards it

and as far as playing any style i dont pub

DAWG · Post by **DAWG** » 2005-09-22 03:01

The thought of playing in a tournament and being attached to a British Coalition division and get to use actual British weaponry. Man that gives me a semi just thinking about it. It can succeed where others have failed because, it fixes the problems of the vanilla release and expands on what was given, it doesn't try to be something special, it is something special, because, in my opinion it adds what was so obviously lacking in a game set amidst a conflict between the middle and far east. With U.K. troops forging a spearhead the coalition can't loose. It lends to the setting which is perfect considering the interest gamers and non gamers have in the real situation upon which BF2 is loosely based.

StormRavn · Post by **StormRavn** » 2005-09-22 03:09

no doubt pubbing is to aggervating

Cutlass · Post by **Cutlass** » 2005-09-22 03:21

Carv wrote: the amount of coorination it involves in building and organizing a torunament of that scale is overwhelming.

I agree! Running BF2 Combat isn't a piece of cake

DAWG · Post by **DAWG** » 2005-09-22 03:44

I don't imagine anyone involved with a possible tournament think for one moment it will be a milk run. However as I stated above the rewards are more than enough to make up for the work involved, none of the current tournaments would exist if it weren't rewarding either finacialy or on a pure enjoyment level. This mod already has a strong and currently expanding structure of players, from reading the posts in the forum, there is a definate feeling of maturity and respect for the mod and the members and that right there is an excellent foundation to add a tournament where everyone who is so dedicated and excited by this mod get to play it with the utmost authenticity and attention to detail.

Post by **Wolfmaster** » 2005-09-22 13:05

DAWG wrote:I don't imagine anyone involved with a possible tournament think for one moment it will be a milk run. However as I stated above the rewards are more than enough to make up for the work involved, none of the current tournaments would exist if it weren't rewarding either finacialy or on a pure enjoyment level. This mod already has a strong and currently expanding structure of players, from reading the posts in the forum, there is a definate feeling of maturity and respect for the mod and the members and that right there is an excellent foundation to add a tournament where everyone who is so dedicated and excited by this mod get to play it with the utmost authenticity and attention to detail.

exactly! we have a load of dedicated members here who would like to help out with setting up this tournament (including me) and most if not all of the people that visit these forums have turned out to be mature enough to play in such a style.

EDIT: one remark (suggestion); when this gets through, please instruct the tournament members/leaders to use the ingame voice chat and not teamspeak. that way you'd go through the 'chain of command' commander->squad leader-> squad->orders carried out. why? cus its a realism mod so it'd have to be a realism tournament....

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-09-22 14:49

team speak is a neccesity in tournaments and if we get a full server i duno how well ingame chat will work

Post by **Wolfmaster** » 2005-09-22 18:23

well i've heard people say teamspeak doesn't work all that well with bf2 but you'll know that better. only the thing is having the commander transfer the orders to the squad leaders is more realistic imo. so if possible it should be done that way.

Post by **requiem** » 2005-09-22 18:35

Teamspeak is still the the most popular and is a lot more customizable then BF2 in terms of ingame codec vs. teamspeak codecs. If the tournament is to be built, communication will then be based off TS.

DAWG · Post by **DAWG** » 2005-09-22 18:59

Wolfmaster wrote:well i've heard people say teamspeak doesn't work all that well with bf2 but you'll know that better. only the thing is having the commander transfer the orders to the squad leaders is more realistic imo. so if possible it should be done that way.

Team Speak works just fine with BF2 and as Requiem mentioned it is more versatile, it is common practice to break down the Divisions into company level channels, then simply by pushing a predefined key the Battlefield Commander can talk to all his troops, specific companies, or individual soldiers, if such detail is deemed neccessary. It's the only way, otherwise you have 25 -30 guys screaming orders to their men over the BFCO screaming orders to the CO's and utter chaos insues, beleive me I've been there, actually it can get quite amusing and is a sure sign that one side is about to reach meltdown, when you find an entire division in one TS channel.

Post by **Wolfmaster** » 2005-09-22 19:06

ok i guess you guys know it

Project Reality Tournament

Would you like PR to have an Official Tournament?