MEC versus Insurgents/Militia

puglous · Post by **puglous** » 2007-04-07 17:18

Of course you're not going to make a whole new type of insurgents, you could just mention that in the map briefing.

Well, you'd need to make some small tweaks at the very least. For example, we wouldn't want a member of the MEC Special Forces embedded in an insurgent faction they are fighting.

azn_chopsticks_boi · Post by **azn_chopsticks_boi** » 2007-04-07 17:26

blah this is gonna turn into a flame war.....

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-04-07 17:51

puglous wrote:Well, you'd need to make some small tweaks at the very least. For example, we wouldn't want a member of the MEC Special Forces embedded in an insurgent faction they are fighting.

Then put in US, UK or Chinese special forces.

Job jobbed.

Raynizzle1691 · Post by **Raynizzle1691** » 2007-04-07 18:00

Maybe a new MEC type faction called the IRAQI ARMY vs. Insurgents

Iraqi army can have 1 class with american skins to be like the real life advisors to the Iraqi army

and im pretty sure if im jihading against iraqis , the american players wont b!tch as much.

Armand61685 · Post by **Armand61685** » 2007-04-07 18:32

Ecko wrote:...
Iraqi Police/Military are currently assisting in the fight against the insurgents. Amazing! Or how about Israel Vs Palestine. List goes on really. It's not just the western world that condones terrorism.

ditto

Plus, to the person who said that people here wouldn't want to play as only middle eastern factions and that we play as either brits or UK because that is what is relevant to us. Not true. There are quite a bit of people that play BF2 that are middle eastern or Chinese. Plus someone who plays World of Warcraft wouldn't realistically connect with orcs and night elves, but only humans, according to you.

Armand61685 · Post by **Armand61685** » 2007-04-07 18:34

Terranova wrote:Who says the Insurgents fighting against the U.S would be the same Insurgents fighting the MEC? We do know that they're are many groups and beliefs out there, so it's plausible to say that the Insurgents faction could very well be fighting anyone, as they simply don't represent one group.

And assuming the MEC are some sort of "Empire" it's pretty likely that they would be dealing with local rebellions and such. We can call the Insurgents that are opposed to the MEC something like "The Persian Resistance". Those who support the MEC; I like to think of them as the "vietcong" of the war depicted in PR. So we can call them "The People's Alliance" or something. Maybe we can slightly distinguish the two with some different skins, that way we can use pug's idea with Insurgents v.s Insurgents.

+1

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-04-08 01:03

coderedfox wrote:WOW if that wasent a stereotype of a whole race of people, then I dont know what is. Let me guess, you think all middle eastern a terrorist?

WOW! if that wasn't the misinterpretation of the century thus far I don't know what is. I was making a joke referring to countries such as Iran and Syria funding insurgencies. I was born in the middle-east so take some precaution before accusing me of stereotyping and racism.

bobfish wrote:Whoa.. I guess that makes Jaymz a terrorist too.. cause he's from Ireland and the IRA were terrorists.. idiot.

Follow the sheeple mate

puglous wrote:*sigh*

I'm so sick of this "You say the MEC would support terrorists OMG U R TEH RACIST!" No. Stop trying to win every discussion by calling the other side racist. The MEC would likely support terrorists because they're fighting the US in the first place. Its like saying its racist that the Germans never fought the Japanese or Italians in BF1942. If they were opposed to the Taliban, Al Qiada, etc, why wouldn't they be allied with the US?

Should the MEC fight insurgents? I think not. Having the new Iraqi army fight insurgents would make more sense, but not a coalition of Middle Eastern nations that is supposed to be opposed to the US.

Come to think of it, why not have insurgents fight other, slightly different looking insurgents in some way or another? After all, the Taliban fought the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.

People like you give me faith in the PR community again, thank you. Like puglous said, to have the MEC fighting Insurgents would not make any sense. At least, not the current insurgency modeled in PR. I do agree it would be cool to have some sort of a kurdish insurgency vs MEC map or an Iraqi Army vs Insurgency map but it would require too much work. Perhaps that is what I should have said in my first post because apparently you can't have a sense of humor around here anymore.

Armand61685 · Post by **Armand61685** » 2007-04-08 01:57

Just add in descriptions before the map load saying Mec = iraqi army and insurgents = sunni or shiite insurgents. And wala! It's not like there is a continuous story for every map.

Armand61685 · Post by **Armand61685** » 2007-04-08 20:04

Perfect example of a Kurdish militia (not insurgents): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRcypijp5dI

Jedimushroom · Post by **Jedimushroom** » 2007-04-09 00:14

Top _Cat the great wrote:He was not referring to you, and this is a good idea.

I believe the stereotype comment was in relations to:

"If we wanted modern day situations we would make a map where it's MEC vs Insurgents except the only available class for MEC would be riflemen without any rifle, so all they could do is run around the insurgents throwing down ammo everywhere. Pretty realistic if you ask me."

I refuse to comment on stereotypes but a little dismissive i think, rather unhelpful in respects, in trying to carefully consider of the idea.

Seriously TopCat, have you come off the speed? Your writing just seems, sorta... correct....and you can...like...read it....

I mean... WOW

Orangez · Post by **Orangez** » 2007-04-09 00:22

What about US vs. Brits ?

I mean, CiC could fuck something up and start a fight with the wrongs guys ...

" - Who the hell are we fighting today ?
- Don't ask do shoot "

Animalmother · Post by **Animalmother** » 2007-04-09 19:26

coderedfox wrote:WOW if that wasent a stereotype of a whole race of people, then I dont know what is. Let me guess, you think all middle eastern a terrorist?

On a real response, it would be cool, but not really enjoyable. It would be like a Turk playing a American civil war level. The whole US/British vs Insurgents is based in a reality and thats why it works.

But I wouldn't be opposed to playing that level. Yell you the truth, Its more about the level then the side I'm on.

No, its the middle easterners FIGHTING terrorists.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2007-04-09 20:02

Jedimushroom wrote:Seriously TopCat, have you come off the speed? Your writing just seems, sorta... correct....and you can...like...read it....

I mean... WOW

I specifically remember re-reading that a few times, I "passed" my dyslexia test (extra time in all areas, except fcking PR.....errr, longer spwns, nah i'll pass) aswell recently so it does take me a fair ammount more time to ensure a decent standard of English. Although i must add that the standard does fluctuate significantly, so dont expect high class grammer in ever post, catch me at a bad time

/ :tired: and it might look no different to araboc but catch me at a good time, like just after counselling, when i am determined to stick off it and hell, i could be Shakespeare!

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-04-11 09:58

heh, I like how all the people who called me a racist have just stfu'd