Al Basrah is bugged - plz fix

Post by **Ghostrider** » 2007-04-09 04:51

Raniak wrote:This thing still exist ?! I've not seen one in the last five years !

LIES!! Dirty Lies!

-Ghost

system · Post by **system** » 2007-04-09 04:53

It's Windows Vista. It's the worst OS out there right now, and probably will be the worst OS until Microsoft comes out with another OS.

Raniak · Post by **Raniak** » 2007-04-09 05:03

'[R-DEV wrote:Ghostrider']LIES!! Dirty Lies!

-Ghost

No lies! all what I get is black screens and my computer reseting !

back on topic...
that's weird, I have 1go ram and I can play Basrah with all medium, could probably play it with some settings at high ...

MadTommy · Post by **MadTommy** » 2007-04-09 07:22

system wrote:It's Windows Vista. It's the worst OS out there right now, and probably will be the worst OS until Microsoft comes out with another OS.

just LOL

Post by **e-Gor** » 2007-04-09 10:20

Raniak wrote:This thing still exist ?! I've not seen one in the last five years !

Yup, although it changed appearance in XP (still blue though) and is hidden by default (PC restarts automatically).

Killer-Ape · Post by **Killer-Ape** » 2007-04-10 01:41

Also get some weird FPS lag (in urban areas only) Its not your common FPS-lag.. Feels more like some texture loading problem.. the game gets ‘twichy’ and its hard to move (sometimes the lag makes me fall of roofs, drunk walk) Al Basrah is the only map just like the OP posted.. On all other maps I get 80+fps.. (so this is a Al Basrah issue only)

I play the game at 1600x1200, all settings maxed (no AA or AF enabled)
If I lower my res i still get lag (but not as much) So even if I lower my res to 1280x768 it still lags (now that’s absurd!) So don't tell me its my system, two of my friends got the same problem (one uses the same hardware setup as mine) Almost every time I play Basrah I can see somebody complain about the lag. So I fully understand the OP, IF my system is flawed how come any other map/mod plays perfectly? I say it’s the map that’s bugged. No disrespect to the map creator “Duckhunt” the map rocks! I love it!

That’s why I want this problem fixed.

CPU: AMD 64 3500+
Graphic: x850XT
Ram: 2gig
Hard Drive: SATA Raptor
OS: Win XP

Post by **Cheeseman** » 2007-04-10 03:55

'[R-DEV wrote:e-Gor']Yup, although it changed appearance in XP (still blue though) and is hidden by default (PC restarts automatically).

Killer-Ape I got the same exact lag issue as you; which is why I did a few graphics tests and this is what I found out:

Fact 1: Every map in PR except Al Basrah works fine with my graphics settings on all high and anti-aliasing on x6.

Fact 2: If I join a Al Basrah map with all high settings and anti-aliasing on x6, I get bad FPS and lag.

Fact 3: If I join a Al Basrah map with all high settings except textures set to medium and anti-aliasing on x6, I don't have bad FPS or lag.

Test:

I first lunched the game with video settings on all high and anti-aliasing on x6, then I join a server with Al Basrah map. As soon as the game starts and I spawn for the first time, I press “Esc” and Disconnect. Then I go back to video settings and I ONLY change textures to medium, while leaving every thing else on high and anti-aliasing on x6. Again I join the same server, but this time although I have textures set to medium, in game the textures haven’t changed and are still on high. BUT the bad FPS and lag issue is no longer present. This concludes that the map probably has a problem loading or reading textures.

Tests were conducted on this system:
AMD 64 Dual Core 2.4Ghz CPU
2GB of RAM
ATI X1600 512MB
Windows Vista 32Bit

thomaskunze · Post by **thomaskunze** » 2007-04-10 15:38

Cheeseman, thank you very much for your detailed testing! I have exactly the same problem running either Vista 32 or 64 on 4GBs of RAM with everything set on "high" and have the same "results" (XP32 runs fine though).
Lowering "Textures" to medium does the job for me on Al Basra but every other map runs perfectly smooth on "high" (just like every other game I have installed currently). So Cheeseman's assumption, this issue has to be linked to Al Basra (a texture or something), still stands!

I am neither married to Vista, nor am I an employee of MS Corporation, but one thing really is annoying (and not restricted to this forum and topic)...
People tend to pick up opinions on some topics real fast without having dealt with the matter in an appropriate way!
Bash me if you want to, but I suppose more than half of the people in this thread complaining about Vista did not even try it themselves but just cite some other articles about the "crappy Vista resource hog worst thing ever has been published aso." If you would have tested it, you would not have posted false assumptions about the RAM usage of an idling Vista32 (far less than 1GB).
Loading up Al Basra on high is ~ 1.5 GB of RAM, so 2GBs of RAM is not sufficient for this scenario. Having 4GBs on Vista32 leaves 3.3GB to be used by the system which is definatly enough for Vista and Bf2.exe, not to mention Vista64... This is just simple maths so please test it on your own.
Since everything runs fine (every other PR map) there has to be something "wrong" with Al Basra's textures.
I second the topic title, please "fix" Al Basra!

Killer-Ape · Post by **Killer-Ape** » 2007-04-11 17:08

My open beta opinon: Yea, must be the textures on Al Basrah.. I really hope it gets fixed..

Cheesman gonna try it out, but lowering textures every time sounds more like a temporary solution..

Iliryn · Post by **Iliryn** » 2007-04-12 05:04

By default, 8800GT# drivers disable application controlled settings and enable driver controlled visuals such as AA, AF, and Image Quality.

Try disabling these options in the nvidia control panel by making sure everything is set to application controlled. This has fixed many 8800 series issues in other games and has not yet been suggested, so I'de figure I'de post.