VSS Vintorez

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-04-21 16:07

Only when the MSPF gets the silenced M4 from PoE2.

Post by **Mongolian_dude** » 2007-04-21 16:07

I doubt the wide availability of such weapons to todays insurgents but im not expert, nor can i be bothered to check.

Also, thats quite overpowered really, for use by insurgents. A fully auto, silenced sniper rifle?...Would kill gamplay like no other.

...mongol...

Jedimushroom · Post by **Jedimushroom** » 2007-04-21 16:25

yes, but I bet you thought the same of an anti-chopper, .50 calibre sniper too.

mammikoura · Post by **mammikoura** » 2007-04-21 16:27

maybe to the militia faction? Would suit them better than the insurgents.
And the damage wouldn't be anything like the other sniper rifles, it's not like this one is shooting 7.62 x 51mm. So it would be more like the current chinese riflemans weapon, a very silent rifle with a scope and capable of full auto.

Maxfragg · Post by **Maxfragg** » 2007-04-21 17:03

it might be not so common, but its a cool gun and (even more important) since a long time the first weapon suggestion that is not for the US (or concerning the MEC G3), so I think it would be a great addition, fitting to the Militia

Tralle · Post by **Tralle** » 2007-04-21 17:12

lol at muzzel velocity! my airgun allmost shoot as hard as it

some serious bullet drop over distance with that rifle !

Post by **Katarn** » 2007-04-21 18:27

Momentum though is massive, tralle; it's a 9mm RIFLE round.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2007-04-21 18:36

Pull your self together and chat the chaps up at FH for a proper rifle!

Ringo876 · Post by **Ringo876** » 2007-04-21 18:56

Top _Cat the great wrote:

Pull your self together and chat the chaps up at FH for a proper rifle!

Hey, I have one of those upstairs in my gun cabinet.

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-04-21 19:01

Ringo876 wrote:Hey, I have one of those upstairs in my gun cabinet.

Lucky Bast*rd, The VSS Vintorez is a Spetsnaz weapon and is extreamly rare to see outside of Russia the ammunition is very hard to come by also and for the insurgents...Please don't make me laugh

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2007-04-21 19:01

101st reason why i live where i live and not where men, women and Ringo's have High power rifles in there ...... *shudders* of all places, "gun cabinet", a place of prized china, food, DIY tools but guns, well i never! jkes

p.s TO the Sod above, hey, i love the enfiled more thn most but i am willin to sacrafise my deep deep desire to let a .303 round rip for a wonderfull crafted and desgined wood and metal TOOOBE.......to rest in the knowege a Ringo "smith" or "black" who works behind the "Badgers HEad" aint got one ^^^!

Ringo876 · Post by **Ringo876** » 2007-04-21 19:03

No I dont have the VSS, I was talking about that einfield rifle! I WISH I had an VSS in my cabinet, that would be bomb. Oh and I live in Alaska, gun crime here is ZERO, and EVERYONE has guns, hense, its a hunting state.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2007-04-21 19:07

WUHOO > TOP CAT IS GOING TO ALASKA!!

and Armed Assault demo has full downloaded, tis truely smashing..

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-04-21 19:25

Muzzle velocity like an airgun.

It's at that MV because it's beloew the supersonic velocity.

Vintores for insurgents?

Maybe militia, but it still seems overkill.

{GD}Snake13 · Post by **{GD}Snake13** » 2007-04-21 19:34

'[R-DEV wrote:Katarn']Momentum though is massive, tralle; it's a 9mm RIFLE round.

The biggest difference between a rifle round and a pistol round is the powder charge, if its moving at subsonic velocities then it can't be all that much more powerful then a larger caliber handgun round

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-04-21 19:50

Top _Cat the great wrote:

Pull your self together and chat the chaps up at FH for a proper rifle!

Truth. Thats what the insurgents need, not top class, ultra rare Russian SF gear. An enfield would be a superb addition.

Oh yeah, Fearosius, the last picture in your post is of a VSS conversion for the Tokyo Marui AK-47 airsoft gun which (like the Dragunov conversion for the same gun) bares only a superfical resemblence to the real steel.

As for the addition of the VSS to anything but one of the true military factions, it makes no sense. The rifle its self is very rare inside the Russian armed forces, let alone anywhere else. Like the weapons (such as the Val and Groza assault rifles) its used in the ammuntion is also exeedingly rare outside of Russian SF units and would be prohibitivly expensive and difficult to aquire for groups of insurgents or malitia.

If they absoluetly need a suppresed long range weapon, a suppressed hunting rifle or an AKMN with a PBS-1 and subsonic rounds would be rather more believeable than a VSS (or any of the 9x39mm weapons)

Tralle · Post by **Tralle** » 2007-04-21 20:21

{GD}Snake13 wrote:The biggest difference between a rifle round and a pistol round is the powder charge, if its moving at subsonic velocities then it can't be all that much more powerful then a larger caliber handgun round

Naaah if the bullit weighs around 15 g it sure is more powerfull. but then the bullet drop would be emmense! Like shooting a motar

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-04-22 15:33

Ringo876 wrote:No I dont have the VSS, I was talking about that einfield rifle!

^^^Yes i no that thats why i put a comer!

"p.s TO the Sod above, hey, i love the enfiled more thn most but i am willin to sacrafise my deep deep desire to let a .303 round rip for a wonderfull crafted and desgined wood and metal TOOOBE.......to rest in the knowege a Ringo "smith" or "black" who works behind the "Badgers HEad" aint got one ^^^!
Yesterday 07:01 PM"

Ok, take a breath and try to speak english...stupid sod.

Ringo876 · Post by **Ringo876** » 2007-04-22 20:42

I have the jungle carbine version to be exact. Kicks like a horse.