HK416

Maxfragg · Post by **Maxfragg** » 2007-05-09 15:08

hm, the HK416 (and the even cooler 7.62mm variant HK417) would be cool, but are quite rare (only a few specops use them as a test)

the XM-8 is canceled just like OICW and XM-25

the SCAR is an nice gun, but was never designed as main battle rifle, but as addition to the future battle rifle (probably the HK416,HK417 or HK418 (new ammo type, bigger than 5.56 and smaller than 7.62)) that should be an high customizable rifle and in the MK-17 variant able to shoot AK-47 mags with 7.62x39 rounds)

source: http://www.world.guns.ru

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-05-09 15:23

Maxfragg wrote:hm, the HK416 (and the even cooler 7.62mm variant HK417) would be cool, but are quite rare (only a few specops use them as a test)

the XM-8 is canceled just like OICW and XM-25

the SCAR is an nice gun, but was never designed as main battle rifle, but as addition to the future battle rifle (probably the HK416,HK417 or HK418 (new ammo type, bigger than 5.56 and smaller than 7.62)) that should be an high customizable rifle and in the MK-17 variant able to shoot AK-47 mags with 7.62x39 rounds)

source: http://www.world.guns.ru

Yeah, so:

Main weapon:
Army: M4
Marines: M16A4

Special forces carbine:
M4A1 or SCAR

Post by **A.J.Sawyer** » 2007-05-09 15:42

and Bob ends the thread

sekiryu · Post by **sekiryu** » 2007-05-09 15:59

(only a few specops use them as a test)

84 HK416's were purchased by a Specops unit in Okinawa. And Okinawa is a perfect stepping stone between here and the Middle East.

oS2007 · Post by **oS2007** » 2007-05-09 16:09

Can't argue with a child of the AR-15 whose reliability is certifiable. Question for RL application is money, of course. Those talents at H&K don't do their thing for free.

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-05-09 16:15

sekiryu wrote:84 HK416's were purchased by a Specops unit in Okinawa. And Okinawa is a perfect stepping stone between here and the Middle East.

84? They'd get used up in what? Two rounds?

No more HK416s will be aquired by USSOCOM, and there arnt enough to requip them completly. Thats what the SCAR is for.

Its not realistic.

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-05-09 19:13

The US Army are using SOME HK416s in Iraq
don't believe me fine.
http://www.hkpro.com/416iraqladder.jpg

But yeah this isn't Project Cool guns i think the current loadout is fine.

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-05-09 19:29

and the link didnt work, ignore me

but the HK416 does need to be added, even though its basically an m4...

arneboe · Post by **arneboe** » 2007-05-09 22:26

The Norwegian Army has bought over 8000 new HK416s fore use in the Army, replacing the AG3

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-05-09 22:34

BlackwaterEddie wrote:and the link didnt work, ignore me

but the HK416 does need to be added, even though its basically an m4...

Why?

The only real advantage it has to the M4 is greater reliability. And, as we dont have jams and such in PR, its addition is pointless.

Is it the current or planned main weapon of any branch of any of the forces seen in PR? No.

Is it in wide use with any of the SF units presented in PR? No.

It makes no sense.

If you want a shiny new gun for the US SF class, pester the devs for a SCAR, which would at least be reasonably realistic as it is intended to replace pretty much everything in the SOCOM arsenal save for MGs and sniper rifles.

ZanderArch · Post by **ZanderArch** » 2007-05-09 23:02

Oh, the ChayTac M-200 Sniper rifle. The "Intervention System" which uses a computer to calculate all the factors of the shot to tell you how to set up your scope (Windage and Elevation) to put a bullet on target at up to 2550 feet.
Or are you talking about the 2.75 inch Huey rocket System?

It was on Future Weapons and every FPS mod has had at least one "Oh, lets add this!" suggestion.

Honestly, thread hijacking aside, the M416 would just be a model change, unless the Dev Team added Jamming, it'd make no difference to us as players, if they replaced the M4 with the M416 gameplay wise.

oS2007 · Post by **oS2007** » 2007-05-09 23:12

I'm inclined to agree with that.

ZanderArch · Post by **ZanderArch** » 2007-05-09 23:35

oS2007 wrote:I'm inclined to agree with that.

Not that I'm saying it's a bad idea, I'd like to see a new gun in my hands, but until the Gameplay is down solid, little things like the weapon models should be on the back burner.

Even it was just a...

Bob_Marley's Signature wrote:The key to modernising any weapon is covering them in glue and tossing them in a barrel of M1913 rails until they look "Modern" enough.

type of remodel, since, honestly, I can't tell the difference visually between the M4 and M416 without the rails and the gap between bits to add more air cooling to the barrel and gas tube.

Compare:
Top picture here: http://www.hkpro.com/hk416.htm (Won't allow Left Click to view image and only allow me to link to the picture)
to this
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 1_ACOG.jpg

oS2007 · Post by **oS2007** » 2007-05-10 00:09

Most of the 416's goodies are inside. Just the same, I'd like to see one with a minimum of rails though.

Raklodder · Post by **Raklodder** » 2013-07-21 12:56

Indeed I would greatly appreciate this for Project Reality 1.1 or later!

Cossack · Post by **Cossack** » 2013-07-21 13:12

Em - necro thread? you will only see it when Norway will be done.

Post by **K4on** » 2013-07-21 13:12

The HK-416 will be included in a further PR Update.

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