US vs UK map?

[DirtyHarry88]

Just what I was going to so in a few more words, but decided not to post foreseeing it being set a blaze faster than some rebel burning the flag of his enemy while his clothing is soaked with the same gas he poured on the flag.

I'm nuts ya see. MUHAHAHAHAHA

[EagleEyeLG]

Guys, STOP this ridiculous arguing over who has won what, who has helped who, and all that other bullshit; we're staunch allies with each other so stop the hate. I don't want this damn thread being closed because of stupid arguments. I think the idea I came up with is definately plausible for PR and I don't want a couple people bitching to get it closed.

Let's see some more CONSTRUCTIVE positive or negative feedback about this idea.

[workingrobbie]

Yeah...anything to spice it up Good idea.

[Doom721]

Ok I would love to see this map, but to be made as say... a real combat operation, just doesn't seem plausible, come on... its about as ridiculous as USMC trying to take over Canada...

Rephrased, I would love this map but, come on, do you think anyone would take this seriously ( R-DEV's at least ) in making a UK v US map?

Come on people, I know the operations vs PLA and MEC are most likely not going to be existant in the near future, but they are LOOSELY based on what could happen.

Training Map: Models/Work =/= The Finished Product ( Not equal in the middle )
Real Operation: Come on...

[azn_chopsticks_boi]

i really doubt this is gonna happen :/

but the MEC is alive in this mod so i will leave it 2 the devs

[EagleEyeLG]

Ok I would love to see this map, but to be made as say... a real combat operation, just doesn't seem plausible, come on... its about as ridiculous as USMC trying to take over Canada...

Rephrased, I would love this map but, come on, do you think anyone would take this seriously ( R-DEV's at least ) in making a UK v US map?

Come on people, I know the operations vs PLA and MEC are most likely not going to be existant in the near future, but they are LOOSELY based on what could happen.

Training Map: Models/Work =/= The Finished Product ( Not equal in the middle )
Real Operation: Come on...

Who cares how likely a situation would be, it would be fun as hell regardless.

[[T]waylay00]

Because change is nice. Plus It's almost 100 percent dead on that most US players like playing as USMC and most brits like playing as UK.

+1

Guys, lighten up...OBVIOUSLY, this map idea wouldn't be a realistic, but rather just for fun. It should be considered almost like an "easter egg" type map, just for laughs. Needless to say, I, among many others, would love playing a US vs. UK map.

And what is up with all this hostile country fanboy-ism around here? It honestly needs to stop.

[Superior Mind]

I'd rather see a MARINES vs. ARMY map when the ARMY is released. It could be like war games or something.

[Smitty4212]

I'm against it. If someone wants to map it as a community addition, that's fine, but I would be pretty disappointed to see this added as an official map.

"It wouldn't be realistic, but just for fun" shouldn't be a reason for any official addition to PR.

Maps with only dune buggies and huge jumps "wouldn't be realistic, but just for fun"

[[:NET:]Boondock Saint]

Vietnam
The US won every major battle.

Somalia
What was the KDR? Like 3000 to 19?

Iraq
We crushed their Army..... 2 times now. 73 Eastings anyone?
We were not alone in are ventures in the Iraqi wars, so I'm not sure why this conflict was brought up.

WW2
Are you f@&^*ng serious. Without the US' involvement in that war you would... WE would all be goose stepping right now. Again, here is another war where several groups acted together, so it's another bad choice.

Any war between the US and UK.....
Well we don't fall under the Queen's rule so figure out for yourself how that turned out.

If you are talking about individual conflicts, the US has done quite well. Unfortunately those of you who just love to blindly take shots at the US are completely missing the point of this discussion.

Anyway, nevermind just the US vs UK. Just using your favorite army against one that you don't normally fight against is interesting. What about China vs. Insurgants. MEC vs. Insurgants, and so on. It's a novelty. For fun.

[EagleEyeLG]

I'm against it. If someone wants to map it as a community addition, that's fine, but I would be pretty disappointed to see this added as an official map.

"It wouldn't be realistic, but just for fun" shouldn't be a reason for any official addition to PR.

Maps with only dune buggies and huge jumps "wouldn't be realistic, but just for fun"

Again... read what I said about how many of the other nations fighting against each other are unrealistic. And as far as I know, the game, the mod, and the maps are all supposed to be for fun, I don't know any other reason why Project Reality exists; it's all just for fun.

This mod is not being used for actual training purposes (as far as I know...). This mod was created to enhance the realism of Battlefield 2 which in turn creates more fun.

And to you guys STILL bitching about how the US is better or how the UK is better, please cut it out. PM someone about it or create a different thread.

[swiftdraw]

May as well throw in MEC vs. China as well. Been mention before, but there you go.

I wouldn't want to see a US vs. UK map until the UK faction has been fully fleshed out. As it stands, the Challenger 2 MBT isn't complete, neither is the UK's APC, and all they have for airpower is the weaponless Merlin slick. Unless you make something similar to Ghost Train, the USMC would be hard to beat.

Then again... Whats the win lost ratio for the USMC on Al Basrah? Ok, the USMC would be hard for the current UK faction to beat if everyone didn't fight over the aircraft... I swear some games the USMC is it's own worst enemy.

[Swe_Olsson]

I dont think the US has won any War.... You lost against the Vietnam, and in Somalia you didnt do much but kill many counter rebels... many innocent died aswell... I actually have met a guy who were shot in the leg by an Soldier down in Somalia, he was only a little Kid... seen his scar... and it doesnt look very nice

[eggman]

no

[Falkun]

Slightly off-topic, but would a China vs Insurgent be realistic?

[EagleEyeLG]

eggman']no

Well then please close the thread.

[PlayPR!]

eggman']no

Oh yea, I forgot...
Egg said in another thread that since the US and UK are on the same "team" (aka USA and UK are team 1 and MEC and China are team 2) the limited kits wouldn't work.

At least I think it was Egg may have been Rhino though.

[Bob_Marley]

Boondock Saint']Vietnam
The US won every major battle.

Objective of the War in Vietnam: To Prevent the fall of South Vietnam to Communism. Hmm... I wonder why Saigon is now called Ho Chi Mihn City?

Mission Status: Failed.

Boondock Saint']Somalia
What was the KDR? Like 3000 to 19?

As the US has proven so very well, wars arnt decided by KDRs. American forces failed thier objectives in Somalia, too.

Boondock Saint']Iraq
We crushed their Army..... 2 times now. 73 Eastings anyone?
We were not alone in are ventures in the Iraqi wars, so I'm not sure why this conflict was brought up.

Did anyone say anything about the US's capability to take on the Iraqi army? No. The point is the US has been less effective in curbing insurgent activivty in its sectors than the other forces in Iraq.

Boondock Saint']WW2
Are you f@&^*ng serious. Without the US' involvement in that war you would... WE would all be goose stepping right now. Again, here is another war where several groups acted together, so it's another bad choice.

There was no mention of WWII prior to your post.

Boondock Saint']Any war between the US and UK.....
Well we don't fall under the Queen's rule so figure out for yourself how that turned out.

American Revolution - British strategic withdrawal to free forces to fight in the Napolionic wars. Two points:

1. Not a soley US victory (as pointed out eariler you had some serious help from the French [something Americans always seem to forget]

2. Not fought with the full force of the British army.

War Of 1812 - No victory claimed by either side, and the US was the agressor.

Objective of US forces in the War of 1812: To annex Canada into the US.
Mission Status: Falied.

And not only did British forces sucessfully defend Canada, they burned down Washington DC as well.

Boondock Saint']If you are talking about individual conflicts, the US has done quite well. Unfortunately those of you who just love to blindly take shots at the US are completely missing the point of this discussion.

I'm not blindly taking shots at anything. My main point, the the US has never won a major war without Europien assistance is still yet to be disproved. Do so and I shall gladly withdraw my statment.

[Outlawz7]

Slightly off-topic, but would a China vs Insurgent be realistic?

Hmm, well, there is some presence of muslims on the far west of China...could also be China vs. Militia, since those guys are even closer..Uzbekistan for example....

[gazzthompson]

id like to see this happen , and it its realistc , things like red flag and stuff , thts EU vs US and stuff. also lol about spamming thread about whos better us and uk , recently there has been posts about smacktards ingame , tbh i think most are here.


but egg said no , so no. also i dont think it can be done having us vs uk cause they on same team.

EDIT: lol whats it u guys got agaist cannonballs threads ? first u spamm his falling down stairs one about how u can fall of buildings and having ago at him even tho he didnt mention it , now this ..... sad.