M16 advice

sekiryu · Post by **sekiryu** » 2007-05-10 16:12

I tried dragging down with the mouse, but somehow it doesn't work. So, I just aim at the feet, and let the recoil pepper him from toes to face.

Doubletaps have more recoil than burst 0_o

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-05-10 17:26

The M16, for me ingame, has barely any recoil.

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-05-10 17:53

El_Vikingo wrote:The M16, for me ingame, has barely any recoil.

indigo|blade · Post by **indigo|blade** » 2007-05-10 17:54

We are trying to concentrate mostly on british basic equipment. Its been our priority from since the beginning of the mod.

- British got their optics first. Our priority #1. We were going to make a new L85 model anyway. Susat was just one more object model and texture.
- Type 95 got its optics second because we had to replace the AK quick.
- G3 is going to get theirs on 0.6. We had almost finished model already (from model to game takes still months)
- USMC will probably get their rifle with optics in 0.7.

If this had been stated at the outset I bet we would have avoided all this mess.

On a lighter note, Hurray for C5 on Saturday/Sunday! Good hunting everyone!

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-05-10 17:58

indigo|blade wrote:If this had been stated at the outset I bet we would have avoided all this mess.

On a lighter note, Hurray for C5 on Saturday/Sunday! Good hunting everyone!

As far as I'm concerned, I didn't make this thread to discuss changes in future versions anyway.

Post by **Vaiski** » 2007-05-10 18:39

Jonathan_Archer_nx01 wrote: I don't know why devs decided not to include scopes for M16 in 0.6 but correct me if I am wrong, a brand-new M16A4 is going to be modelled, that means new iron sights, right?

Its not in 0.6 simply because its not done yet. Yes, new model means new iron sights.

ReaperMAC · Post by **ReaperMAC** » 2007-05-10 22:31

El_Vikingo wrote:The M16, for me ingame, has barely any recoil.

You have GOT to be kidding me, seriously, its not funny.

Doom721 · Post by **Doom721** » 2007-05-10 22:34

'[R-DEV wrote:Vaiski']Its not in 0.6 simply because its not done yet. Yes, new model means new iron sights.

YIPEE YEEHAW WOOHOO New ironsights

I sorely dislike the M16 ironsights even though I feel somewhat confident with the gun, though its not my favorite... ( G3 go boom? )

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-05-10 22:35

Doom721 wrote:YIPEE YEEHAW WOOHOO New ironsights I sorely dislike the M16 ironsights even though I feel somewhat confident with the gun, though its not my favorite... ( G3 go boom? )

Blue car go BOOM! As we both know.

Wattershed · Post by **Wattershed** » 2007-05-10 23:54

From looking at the M16A4 pictures the base aiming thing is ALLOT smaller than the M16A2 vanilla sights. Maybe the zoom will be greater than normal ironsight weapons?

JKRMAUI · Post by **JKRMAUI** » 2007-05-11 01:48

I've heard some rumors of Troops taking their knifes and trying to *Hollow Point* the tips of the standard round....not sure if its any effective....or safe 0_o

Post by **Katarn** » 2007-05-11 01:54

Doom721 wrote:YIPEE YEEHAW WOOHOO New ironsights I sorely dislike the M16 ironsights even though I feel somewhat confident with the gun, though its not my favorite... ( G3 go boom? )

They are quite small you know:

could also look like:

Alot of leeway considering we don't have to worry about 3D sights. But, if they were 3d sights, the second would probably be the view (FOV 70 degrees, camera 1.5/2 inches from sight).

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-05-11 01:58

i hope that you dont make it so smaller and anoying like the At4 sight

SethLive! · Post by **SethLive!** » 2007-05-11 01:59

thats the long range iron sight. could you use the close range iron sight? you can just flip the sight to switch between them irl...
EDIT: on the second pic, the hole is way too small for the close range iron sight

Wattershed · Post by **Wattershed** » 2007-05-11 02:04

Ahh ****.. Katarn locked his photogallery.. I knew that I should have downloaded the pics of the G3 with scope

Post by **Katarn** » 2007-05-11 02:06

You want to use the long range sight. If you are within 50m you're probably not using the sights anyway.

NaZar3TH · Post by **NaZar3TH** » 2007-05-11 02:12

on the topic of the hollow point-

well a hollow point round has more expansion than a standard round,and it would be definately more effective in relation to stopping power. I dont think they would hollow out the round, more likely notch the tip.(i did this wit a few .308 rounds and they definately expanded more on impact than straight copper jacketed rounds.) jus dont let the JAG at the base camp find out, as im pretty sure hollow point rounds are "illegal" or something by the geneva convention. there was a case with a usmc sniper in the dustbowl having problems with their JAG for using "open pointed" 175gr smk's, causing some shit to hit the fan includin the sniper losin his job.

also, everyone should really stop cryin about the m16 and wait for it to get fixed in later patches. the dev's have already stated their intentions and we're not gonna get anywhere by whinin about it.

NZ out

Post by **Katarn** » 2007-05-11 02:19

SethLive! wrote:EDIT: on the second pic, the hole is way too small for the close range iron sight

Both the long range sights, i swapped their position during modeling. They are actually in the position on the second render.

noir-colombia- · Post by **noir-colombia-** » 2007-05-11 03:33

SethLive! wrote:thats the long range iron sight. could you use the close range iron sight? you can just flip the sight to switch between them irl...
EDIT: on the second pic, the hole is way too small for the close range iron sight

those are one of the most realistic ironsights that i ever seen...

the hole is right on its correct size (for longer engagements) for shorter ones, the hole isnt big deal compared with the long range ones, this is the same holes used on the galil (a mixed rifle with the ak47 mechanisms and the best sights ever designed) that is on servise on my country

CHEERS WITH THAT RIFLE!!

i have a question , this reskined m16 will gonna arrive .6 (PLEASE PLEASE CAN U??)

Post by **Katarn** » 2007-05-11 04:10

Sorry, that's a no, noir-colombia-, but i can guarantee v0.7. Unfortunately for parallelism, the sights will not look like what i just posted either. They'll be similar to the L85/QBZ95 sights because we're using the 2d/3d mix.

The earliest 3dirons/reddots would be coming at 1.0 if so decided upon.