Idea!

DWM|SgtSwabs · Post by **DWM|SgtSwabs** » 2005-10-28 09:40

I have had an idea!!(thats not right i never have ideas) well you know helos are great for resupplying troop, well i was wondering wether you guys could like fix a supply crate on the inside of the UH-60 or something and have it as a supply helo that would be awesome and add more realism

Post by **NikovK** » 2005-10-28 10:05

This sounds great.

While a Blackhawk can heal, rearm or repair with the proper medics, support or engineers aboard, making these inherently part of the Blackhawk package would certainly change how we treat our transport helos. For example, presently people just pile in, fly over (or into) a target and abandon the helo to the flames. But if it acted as a mobile, durable supply crate a landed transport helo would add staying power to the disembarked infanty.

There's one possible technical problem I see: the supply crate might repair the helicopter automatically. I'm not sure how the code works, but instinct suggests that if the helicopter itself were emmitting the supply-crate code, and not literally hauling a supply crate inside, it should not affect the helicopter itself. Obviously that's a coder's area.

Enforcer1975 · Post by **Enforcer1975** » 2005-10-28 15:30

This would unbalance the game if you add all abilities. Just add resupply ammo. No helo is equipped like a garage or a hospital.

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-10-28 16:04

POE had gave the blackhawk a droppable supply crate that was almost like a weapons only problem was the life span of the supply crate was tied to the chopper

DAWG · Post by **DAWG** » 2005-10-28 17:05

Enforcer1975 wrote:This would unbalance the game if you add all abilities. Just add resupply ammo. No helo is equipped like a garage or a hospital.

Tell that to the guys flying the air ambulance. Just like a standard ambulance, only it flies. Sure no helo is equiped to do everything at once, but there are different helos for different jobs. Why not incorporate them into the game, instead of 2 basic hawks, you can simply add a supply crate drop, the crate contains medicine, parts and ammo, just like in real life. The point I believe is to make a supply drop more realistic in the game, as opposed to simply clicking a button and having the magic resupply fairies drop off the neccessary. Now that really is unrealistic.

Haker · Post by **Haker** » 2005-10-28 17:57

Well maybe not a chopper that supplies everything, but perhaps a medic UH-60 with no weapons aboard. That would be awsome.

IDK if the Seahawk has a version for medical use, but I know the Blackhawk does.

Also maybe a *cough* C-47 *cough* to deliver supply crates.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-10-28 19:45

Haker wrote:IDK if the Seahawk has a version for medical use, but I know the Blackhawk does.

The US Navy does not have a dedicated air ambulance variant of the H-60 like the Army does (UH-60Q). All H-60s and transport helicopters in general can potentially be used for medevac; personnel properly trained and equipped as combat lifesavers, medics/hospital corpsmen or pararescuemen just have to be in them. But the UH-60Q has life support features that most other US helos do not, such as internal oxygen generation. That's what makes them preferred for medevac.

Any Seahawk variant can potentially be used for CSAR or medevac (all variants have rescue hoists and a least one crewman is trained as a rescue swimmer), but the HH-60H Seahawk is the CSAR and special warfare support platform for the Navy. It is due to be phased out by the MH-60S.

Haker wrote:Also maybe a *cough* C-47 *cough* to deliver supply crates.

Do you mean a CH-47 Chinook? The C-47 has not been in US service since around the middle of the Vietnam War. I have to wonder if some of the ones we used then still had patches over bulletholes from World War II.

Post by **Wolfmaster** » 2005-10-28 21:02

'[R-DEV wrote:Eddie Baker'] I have to wonder if some of the ones we used then still had patches over bulletholes from World War II.

i don't think any chinooks were employed during WWII so they could hardly have patched up bullet holes from that time...

Haker · Post by **Haker** » 2005-10-28 21:52

'[R-DEV wrote:Eddie Baker']Do you mean a CH-47 Chinook? The C-47 has not been in US service since around the middle of the Vietnam War. I have to wonder if some of the ones we used then still had patches over bulletholes from World War II.

No I meant the C-130 woops

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-10-28 23:10

wolf he means the c 47s the US used in vietnam

Post by **Wolfmaster** » 2005-10-29 10:52

yes, he wonders if the chinooks used in vietnam had bulletholes from WWII. but there were no chinooks in WWII. right?

Post by **BlakeJr** » 2005-10-29 10:54

I don't even think they had helicopters at all during WWII...

Post by **Wolfmaster** » 2005-10-29 11:28

not in military service anyway.

Super6 · Post by **Super6** » 2005-10-29 15:41

if they make the blackhawk like the dc c-130 where, when it loses all health, it cant move but it doesn't immediately blow up.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-10-29 18:29

Wolfmaster wrote:yes, he wonders if the chinooks used in vietnam had bulletholes from WWII. but there were no chinooks in WWII. right?

You misunderstand, again. I said I wondered if the Douglas C-47 Skytrains we used in Vietnam still had bulletholes from WWII.

As I already mentioned, the Chinook is the CH-47, which is what I thought Haker was talking about.

Mad Max · Post by **Mad Max** » 2005-10-29 19:52

There were choppers in WW2. The Kolibri. It was a German prototype they made in the 1930's (yet another thing the Americans claimed to have invented but didn't... think the 1st working American chopper was the Bell-47 made in erm... 1947. They found German plans).

I don't think they were used as a war machine, infact I think they were first used in such a roll in the Congo in the 1950's by the British (yet again, the Americans think they revolutionised chopper warfare in Korea and Vietnam).

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-10-29 20:14

Mad Max wrote:There were choppers in WW2. The Kolibri. It was a German prototype they made in the 1930's (yet another thing the Americans claimed to have invented but didn't... think the 1st working American chopper was the Bell-47 made in erm... 1947. They found German plans).

I don't think they were used as a war machine, infact I think they were first used in such a roll in the Congo in the 1950's by the British (yet again, the Americans think they revolutionised chopper warfare in Korea and Vietnam).

You really need to get the chip (and fish) off your shoulder, dude and start checking sources before you post, especially when accompanying them with derisive statements. Powered vertical flight was first achieved in Europe in the early 1900s. Sikorsky, before he and his family immigrated to the US, built his first helicopter in 1909. The first US use of the helicopter (one of Sikorsky's designs, and he had a working prototype by 41) in combat was in Burma in April of 1944, rescuing soldiers behind enemy lines.