FNC and FN FAL and FN LAR (Belgium)

halvor1 · Post by **halvor1** » 2007-05-24 21:15

I think the insurgents do use these weapons or maybe the mec team does

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-05-24 21:22

Proof?

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-05-24 21:56

BlackwaterEddie wrote:Proof?

The FAL is a rediculsly popular weapon. By far the most sucessful of the NATO battle rifles. So much so infact that it was nicknamed "The right arm of the free world". Finding it in the hands of insurgents or paramilitaries would not be uncommon in many parts of the world. And if the insurgents got both the L1A1 and Lee Enfield, we'd have a complete set of 20th century british rifles! Now wouldnt that be grand?

Also, in the past decade or two the vast majority of FAL users have dumped them in favour of newer weapons (Britian with the L85, Belgium with the FNC, Australians with the F88, etc, etc...) so there are even more floating about the worlds arms markets than before.

Also, the M16A1 could go on that list as well, as older versions of the M16 are also fairly common weapons around the world. Then again niether come close the the AK-47/AKM in the total produced.

Longbow* · Post by Longbow* » 2007-05-24 22:17

I've heared a statement that AKM was #1 in 70s , but the king of 80s definitely was FAL

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-05-24 22:44

Bob, it was more of a "do you have any proof that these weapons are used?, photos?, movies?" than a "do you have proof that the FAL COULD be used?"

Brood · Post by **Brood** » 2007-05-24 22:46

Give them to the militia, would make sense.

Longbow* · Post by Longbow* » 2007-05-24 22:51

BlackwaterEddie wrote:Bob, it was more of a "do you have any proof that these weapons are used?, photos?, movies?" than a "do you have proof that the FAL COULD be used?"

[offtopic]I'm 100% sure that PP-19 Bizon isn't used by any kind of militia units . But it is already in 0.6 ... [/offtopic]
FN FAL do not need any proof to be used by insurgents & militia , it is third most spread all over the world firearm , after AK & M16 family

sekiryu · Post by **sekiryu** » 2007-05-25 00:15

The insurgents use whatever they can get their hands on. I've seen photos of captured caches that had UMPs, AUGs, and P90s!

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-05-25 06:25

could you supply us with these pictures?

bobfish · Post by **bobfish** » 2007-05-25 07:27

A google search will pull up a lot of information on the FAL, though most of it is articles rather than facts imo. One common trend appears to be it's more common amongst African states than Middle Eastern ones. So depends on the setting really.

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-05-25 07:59

Aye, look up pictures of fals in conflicts and they are usually seen in African conflicts, one that springs to mind is Somalia.

interceptor7 · Post by **interceptor7** » 2007-05-25 16:58

The FAL is extremely common in Africa, as others have mentioned. Not so much in the ME, but anything is possible. There were a few vids of Al-Sarkhawi (sp?) before we blew up his sorry *** showing him firing a SAW and giving interviews showing M16s in the background, so anything is possible.

SiN|ScarFace · Post by **SiN|ScarFace** » 2007-05-25 17:17

I have seen news pictures of Palestinian militants carrying FALs.

sekiryu · Post by **sekiryu** » 2007-05-25 17:46

I can't find the picture of the AUG--I think I saw it on 4chan or some obscure place. But here's the UMP: