Bloody grenades!

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Danthesandman
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Bloody grenades!

Post by Danthesandman »

Who has ever been in a situation where your attacking a flag from behind a wall. as you duck back you hear that sound that strikes fear into the most hidden of infantry. "GRANADE" then you see it plonk right down infront of your face. "if only I could throw it back..."

Well this is PR and you should be allowed to throw a granade back. I know the coding and engine would be a b!tch but come on. pick it up like a kit and then have it thrown the second you get it without you chosing when. that would be so freakn funny.
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Post by TexLax »

hard coded
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Post by Rhino »

ye we would like to do things like that, but it is not possible with the BF2 engine, hard coded stuff that we can not change.
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daranz
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Post by daranz »

I doubt you'd pick up a live grenade in real life, in most situations. The safest thing is to run away from it, considering that you have no way of telling when it's going to explode.
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Post by Outlawz7 »

Fuse time is 4 seconds, and usually it flies about 3 secs, so you can only see, that its in front of your feet..rest is history :p
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Post by Rhino »

Outlawz wrote:Fuse time is 4 seconds, and usually it flies about 3 secs, so you can only see, that its in front of your feet..rest is history :p
ye realistically, the only thing you could do in that time period is jump on the nade if you are brave enough too, but ingame no one would care about there own like they would in a r/l situation like that and I doubt it could be coded, but might be possible.
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Post by loyalguard »

In RL we were taught that the best chance you had to survive if you saw a grenade in your proximity was to dive to the ground, feet towards the grenade (i.e. head pointing away), arms by your side (arms over your head exposes the flanks of your body).

The rationale is that a grenade on the ground will explode mostly upwards in a conical blast (the ground below it directing the blast up), so the more of your body in plane with the grenade, the better. Picking it up just increases the risk of having it explode midair which would make a 360 spherical blast. Running away also exposes more of your body to the blast (depending on the distance) so it too may not be ideal.
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Post by Outlawz7 »

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino']ye realistically, the only thing you could do in that time period is jump on the nade if you are brave enough too, but ingame no one would care about there own like they would in a r/l situation like that and I doubt it could be coded, but might be possible.
Well, if instaproning on a grenade would affect its splash damage, so it would only kill the guy on it, I'd gladly do it :)
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El_Vikingo
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Post by El_Vikingo »

Does actually going prone, minimize the effects of the grenade in BF2, or am I just imagining it?
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Post by blackeagle1992 »

daranz wrote:I doubt you'd pick up a live grenade in real life, in most situations. The safest thing is to run away from it, considering that you have no way of telling when it's going to explode.
what are you stupid trying to run from a greanade is suicide in real life my father told me that(soviet army experience) what you need to do in that kind of situation is find cover behind every little thing you see cuz a greanade kills up to 8 meters so you wont be able to run away
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Post by El_Vikingo »

I think someone here smells of BS, and it aint me.

8 metres?

I think it's quite funny when the guy throws the pin instead. :P
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Post by blackeagle1992 »

yes 8 meters its not the explosion of the grenade that kills genious its the the litle metals of the grenade that fly when exploded they kill for sure 8 meters
Danthesandman
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Post by Danthesandman »

Thanx for all your opinions guys. There wasnt even any ******* think they're cool cos they know so much usless **** telling me why im stupid (ya they drive me nuts). I guess when you look at it that way, throwing a granade is a bad idea.
Hardtman
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Post by Hardtman »

I think we should be glad that there are no "defensive"(or whatever it is in english) grenades,which have a dangerous(but not necessarily lethal) radius of over 30 Meters or such
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Post by Gyberg »

blackeagle1992 wrote:yes 8 meters its not the explosion of the grenade that kills genious its the the litle metals of the grenade that fly when exploded they kill for sure 8 meters
I cant believe I am saying this but he is right, depending on the grenade the area where you are going to die differs. The swedish grenades have a "kill-area" within an radius of 5 meters from the grenade but it might injure people at greater distances, so 8 meters is not a impossible distance.
And yes, the explosion is not what kills/injures most people, it is the tiny ball-bearings which are "baked" into the explosives, in a swedish grenade there is 5500 ball-bearings with a diameter of 2.5mm "baked" into the explosives, to put it short, you'll get shredded if you are within the kill radius.
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Post by Longbow* »

soviet nades :
F1 - defensive , 200m max range ( not lethal )
RGD-5 - offencive , 50m max range ( not lethal )

don't know the exact numbers , but 8m is possibly a 100% lethal range for RGD-5
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Post by Expendable Grunt »

I don't imagine that it works like in the old WW2 movies? You know, where they put their helmet over the grenade and hold it down? I wonder if that would work (I highly doubt...)
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Post by daranz »

blackeagle1992 wrote:what are you stupid trying to run from a greanade is suicide in real life my father told me that(soviet army experience) what you need to do in that kind of situation is find cover behind every little thing you see cuz a greanade kills up to 8 meters so you wont be able to run away
Would you get behind that cover by teleportation?
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Post by Hardtman »

Expendable Grunt wrote:I don't imagine that it works like in the old WW2 movies? You know, where they put their helmet over the grenade and hold it down? I wonder if that would work (I highly doubt...)
Um....it might work,but this really is depending on the amount of explosives in the nade. If the explosion is weak enough then a modern Helmet might hold it and the fragments would not have enought time to build up enough speed to pass throud the helmet.
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Post by El_Vikingo »

blackeagle1992 wrote:yes 8 meters its not the explosion of the grenade that kills genious its the the litle metals of the grenade that fly when exploded they kill for sure 8 meters
No shit? I wonder why they call it fragmentation grenade.
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