M-4 full auto

::Major_Baker:: · Post by **::Major_Baker::** » 2007-06-11 17:50

Look, I know there ahve been posts about this in the past, but it is amazing how many people still use the M4 when playing as USMC.

Full auto spray and pray.

I can't find the change log, but what has been changed for this in .6?
I certainly hope it's not the same.

thoughts?

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-06-11 17:52

The ROF seems to have been increased

Teek · Post by **Teek** » 2007-06-11 18:48

BlackwaterEddie wrote:The ROF seems to have been increased

The SOUND ROF is increaced.
Specops has no Body armour, no nades, no SOFLAM, and Slams are useless.

SiN|ScarFace · Post by **SiN|ScarFace** » 2007-06-11 18:50

M-4 is weak sauce in .5 and .6, no worries.

danthemanbuddy · Post by **danthemanbuddy** » 2007-06-11 18:52

Only worry about the spec ops in CQB, but with the way the v.6 beta is playing, you won't have to worry about anything, riflemen and snipers are the scary ones now.

eddie · Post by **eddie** » 2007-06-11 18:52

Look at it my way: If they spray and pray, I win.

OiSkout · Post by **OiSkout** » 2007-06-11 18:53

Well, the gun is very useful. Especially in jungle maps.

I think the M4 is still necessary in game. Whenever I feel like ya know, assaulting stuff, moving around quickly, etc., I use the M4. Maybe it's just the feeling, but it's necessary.

Maverick--113 · Post by **Maverick--113** » 2007-06-11 19:21

I like it, spray and pray is useless though. The lack of body armor and frags is a real drawback though. I prefer it to the riflemen kit because the damn zoom on that m16 makes it impossible to do anything in cqb.

Post by **Falkun** » 2007-06-11 21:36

The m4 might be a bit overpowered in CQB, but then it is a CQB weapon. Totally sucks at range though...very amusing when a spec ops whore is trying to snipe me with a m4 from long-range...

Blackhawk 5 · Post by **Blackhawk 5** » 2007-06-11 21:43

The M4 in .4 dominated

Viper5 · Post by **Viper5** » 2007-06-11 22:13

Well a full auto Carbine should rule in CQB... its what its made for. And once the US Army comes everyone gets M4s, albeit no full auto.

Post by **Falkun** » 2007-06-11 23:49

'[R-PUB wrote:Viper5']Well a full auto Carbine should rule in CQB... its what its made for. And once the US Army comes everyone gets M4s, albeit no full auto.

The same spec ops m4, just with no full-auto? Wouldn't that make the US Army faction the worst in ranged-fighting in-game?

ZanderArch · Post by **ZanderArch** » 2007-06-12 02:40

Falkun wrote:The same spec ops m4, just with no full-auto? Wouldn't that make the US Army faction the worst in ranged-fighting in-game?

Currently, the Spec Ops has the M4A1, the Army will get the M4. It will hopefully be unrealistically actualized to balance them out, or else, well, lets just hope the American version of the AH-64 Apache is good.

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-06-12 04:28

ZanderArch wrote:the Army will get the M4. It will hopefully be unrealistically actualized to balance them out.

What the hell does that mean? It will be zeroed to 300m and will be just as effective as an M16 at that range.

swiftdraw · Post by **swiftdraw** » 2007-06-12 04:44

'[R-DEV wrote:Jaymz']What the hell does that mean? It will be zeroed to 300m and will be just as effective as an M16 at that range.

Errrm, I'm no expert at firearms but I remember people bitching that the M4's accuracy dropped dramatically around 150 yards (about 137m.) Is that right?

CAS_117 · Post by **CAS_117** » 2007-06-12 07:31

The M-4 is the best rifle in the USMC as of now. I'll take the red dot over the iron sight any day, even with the 0.6 zoom, the rabbit ears are really hit and miss. Usually the latter...

Filamu · Post by **Filamu** » 2007-06-12 07:36

It is not the accuracy that drop at 150m it is the damage, it just dont kill as good. And since there is little recoil the accuracy is ok at long distances too

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-06-12 08:06

Since the M-4 and the M-16 fire the same round, wouldn't the M-4 have HIGHER muzzle climb, since there is less rifle to absorb recoil?

Post by **Hitperson** » 2007-06-12 10:23

well seeing as it has a shorter barrel i would have thought so also the round would travel slower and the gun would be louder as well as having a brighter muzzle flash at night.

<SS&D>Bys0n · Post by **<SS&D>Bys0n** » 2007-06-12 10:31

I dont see the problem with having a fully automatic weapon, I always use the Spec Ops kit when in close combat, doesnt make me a noob does it, its common sense, there are plenty of other fully automatic weapons in the game so i dont understand what the problem is tbh?