Insurgent v Insurgent

Red Halibut · Post by **Red Halibut** » 2007-06-15 09:21

Maybe I'm jumping the gun here, so feel free to close/delete if you think I am too close to the bone but the news of the Hamas / Fatah fighting in Gaza last night left me wondering how a map would work out if it was Insurgent v Insurgent. For one thing the civilian class would get interesting...

Nimble · Post by **Nimble** » 2007-06-15 09:31

Hey ... he's right that's not a half bad idea. I suppose it'd have to be Insurgents with somewhat different models/skins though. Otherwise it'd be a bloody free for all, TKs everywhere!

Red Halibut · Post by **Red Halibut** » 2007-06-15 09:38

Well, one thing that struck me about the footage was that the majority of Hamas personnel had AK-variant weapons, whereas the majority of Fatah seemed to be running with M16/M4 variants.

That and the fact that Hamas seemed to have their faces covered whereas Fatah did not.

MadTommy · Post by **MadTommy** » 2007-06-15 09:45

Red Halibut wrote:Well, one thing that struck me about the footage was that the majority of Hamas personnel had AK-variant weapons, whereas the majority of Fatah seemed to be running with M16/M4 variants.

That and the fact that Hamas seemed to have their faces covered whereas Fatah did not.

Don't you know why?

Fatah is backed by the west.. armed and funded.

Hamas is not.. and needs to keep their ID's covered or they might end up in Guantanamo Bay.. or Poland!

ryan d ale · Post by **ryan d ale** » 2007-06-15 09:59

I like the idea, maybe reskinning the militia?

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-06-15 10:01

MadTommy wrote:ban this racist.

He's been banned twice already, I vote for a third time!

I don't think the fight over Gaza is done by insurgents. Don't they have helicopters and artillry?

TexLax · Post by **TexLax** » 2007-06-15 10:02

MadTommy wrote:ban this racist.

+1

well, the only way it would work is if the dev's go and make new skins for the other insurgent team, set the weapons and make maps for this...

though this could be done by a small group of pubs. i would do it, but i got no modding experience and my graphics card is down. be cool, but i don't see it happening.

+more civilians around
+the insurgent's have slightly different kit configurations (not to much, don't want to make it completely into a US vs INS technology)
+vehicles can be used by both teams (OMG vBF2!!!)
+city maps, infantry only

blackeagle1992 · Post by **blackeagle1992** » 2007-06-15 10:09

wtf fuck you all idiots what is so racist about it?
they were born hating us we should hate them back racist is whenyou say "oh is a black idiot" or "he is a stupid whitey" or his an arab or his this and that
this has nothing to do with racism are you retards the word racism comes from the word race and race is notalways a republic or a country like all the arab countries are the same race egypt syria the "palestinians" they are all arab race and i think i have the rights to hate terrorists cuz they are murdering terrorists hamas murders fatah and fatah murder hamas they are both terrorist groups they both deserve only bad so what is so racist about it?
explain yourself plz

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-06-15 10:12

^ Fatah gunmen/soldiers (dunno what you call them) ^

^^ ( Is it just me or is that a BB gun) Hamas gun men ^^

Red Halibut · Post by **Red Halibut** » 2007-06-15 10:19

Gentlemen please.

I'd like to discuss the merits of Insurgent vs Insurgent Game mechanics, not get the thread locked.

How would the civilian class work? My suggestion is no re-skinning so you cannot tell "Team A" Civilians apart from "Team B" Civilians. It would also mean that you would see more civilians "on the streets".

blackeagle1992 · Post by **blackeagle1992** » 2007-06-15 10:24

by the way robbo nice pics those m4's came from the israeli goverment not from us sense oslo agreements we had a stupid prime minister back then was caled yizhak rabin and with him was simon peres which thx to them today the fatah has western weapons(you see i can teach you interesting things if you will to learn though i you didnt ask me to teach you that lol)

TexLax · Post by **TexLax** » 2007-06-15 10:26

Red Halibut wrote:Gentlemen please.

I'd like to discuss the merits of Insurgent vs Insurgent Game mechanics, not get the thread locked.

they would clean up the thread and say nothing to see here...

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-06-15 13:47

i cleaned the thread, along with Mongolian dude.

I think this is a good idea but the forces bot have to be unique and not just insurgents with US weapons

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-06-15 13:50

I think it could be an interesting new game mode, and as ins dont use the kit request system it would probubly be easier to impliment than MEC vs Insurgents (then again, it would probubly result in a "team 1" insurgent faction, who could fight the MEC, could it not?)

Oh, and they're not M4s...

Long Bow · Post by **Long Bow** » 2007-06-15 13:52

I'm usually one of the first to slam a blackeagle1992 thread or post but...

I'm willing to cut him a little slack here. I don't necessarily agree with how he said what he said but he lives in Israel. He lives in a different environment then most of us and has a history that we don't really know. This topic probably cuts closer to the bone and brings in great deal more then we could understand. So for that reason I think we should not be so quick to jump on him for this. Blackeagle1992 just try to use a little more mature language when talking about such things

Correct me if I'm wrong here but are not Hamas and Fatah both elected political parties in Palistine? How is that insurgent vs. insurgent. Furhtermore the Fatah have actual security forces, not very insurgent like.

There has been fighting between different factions in Iraq , Sunees and Shietes (sorry don't know the correct spelling). I think this would involve allot of work for the devs though as you would need to insurgent factions that look similar but not identical. I like the MEC vs. Insurgent idea.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-06-15 14:51

Well, we could have one Insurgent faction with the 0.5 Insurgent and Spec Op models and another with the models from BF2: SF, the MEC Spec Op and Medic, if Im correct, those two have ski masks...

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-06-15 14:59

no mec vs insrugents

as no insurgents vs insrugents
as no usa vs britsh

period.

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-06-15 15:13

77SiCaRiO77 wrote:no mec vs insrugents

as no insurgents vs insrugents

period.

1. Poirot disagrees:

2. Why?