SAS Anzacs

Bleach · Post by **Bleach** » 2007-06-16 08:44

I think it would be a grate idea for the SAS side of the story in pr , SAS would be cool because my Granddad was in WWII and they have awesome weapons vehicles and tactics, SAS have done some of the most dangerous missions in the world for New Zealand, England , Australia and for freedom and country . Am i insane or is this a good idea

Brummy · Post by **Brummy** » 2007-06-16 08:51

I don't think they are needed, US Army + MC; PLA; MEC; UK; Militia; Insurgents..

Enough IMO.. But I don't see any real conflict they are needed..

Bleach · Post by **Bleach** » 2007-06-16 08:58

lol ok so I'm insane but just a suggestion

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-06-16 09:09

I think this is a brill idea i dont think you could put SAS ingame theyd need the skill of 200 haxors with M4 from 0.4, dual uzis, LAW80, C4, Parachute oh yeh no body armour because SAS are so 133T they can take a full saw mag and still run the Kashan Dessert map

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-06-16 09:28

Please, no more "Special Forces" type suggestions...

ryan d ale · Post by **ryan d ale** » 2007-06-16 09:33

no delta/seals/s.a.s, please. Sure, they might have some wicked gear and be leet but P.R is not about being leet.

Post by **Rhino** » 2007-06-16 09:42

Special Forces dont play a huge part in most battles, and if they do they are most of the time just a force on the side that goes around behind enemy lines, and are not with the main force.

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-06-16 11:55

More often than not they're doing something vital for the regular forces. Of course there's loads of operations that happen and we never hear about.

BetterDeadThanRed · Post by **BetterDeadThanRed** » 2007-06-16 13:37

As much as I would love running around as a SAS or a SEAL, I'd rather have the effort put on the US Army.

daranz · Post by **daranz** » 2007-06-16 14:55

Ok, if SAS were to be put in game:

1. The other team would have to have significantly more players
2. Players on the other team would have to have no idea that they're about to be attacked by SAS
3. Players on the other team would be either pulling guard duty, or sitting in their barracks and playing cards or reading a book (I omitted the more explicit option).
4. The SAS would have some specific objective other than map dominance - for example, rescuing a POW.
6. A player from the other team who got eliminated sufficiently fast would have no way to contact the rest of the team to report on what happened. In fact, he wouldn't be able to respawn to prevent that
7. Even if a player did manage to report a contact, not everyone would hear it right away, because the dudes playing cards in barracks do not all have radios

Ok, I'm gonna stop now.... But you can see that special forces aren't feasible in PR.

LiquidSnake · Post by **LiquidSnake** » 2007-06-16 14:56

would be cool = nonoonono

Post by **Dunehunter** » 2007-06-16 15:19

Doesn't BF2 single-player have a god-mode? Give that a shot.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-06-16 15:50

Not really, just an easy mode, where bots spam hand grenades, and you can easily pick them off from a distance.

[LTC] Gunther.S [4SFG] · Post by **[LTC] Gunther.S [4SFG]** » 2007-06-16 16:09

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino']Special Forces dont play a huge part in most battles, and if they do they are most of the time just a force on the side that goes around behind enemy lines, and are not with the main force.

I am sorry. How is that not a huge part in battle?

If this isn't a huge part of battle, lets remove penetration into enemy lines. We'll all line up like they did in the civil war era and then we could have loads of fun with that.

Ohh wait, they had SF type units back then.

The idea of SF's is not nec to directly kill the enemy, but take something away from them. That could then lead to their death.

For example, they are outnumbered and surrounded, but cant retreat because SF's blew their evacuation point up aka a bridge.

The SAS could play a big role in this game that they would play in the military.

Heres a no brainer.... Destroying key AA pieces.

After all we are talking about the Special Air Service. This is what these boys were put on this planet for no? Aiding in the RAF.

azn_chopsticks_boi · Post by **azn_chopsticks_boi** » 2007-06-16 16:35

blah...another SAS...use search

*edit...SAS is too small 2 search..

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-06-16 16:54

Haha burned!

This kinda thing would be nice if we all close our eyes and imagine PR as a well polished independent title with huge single player campaigns... *sigh*

daranz · Post by **daranz** » 2007-06-16 17:05

2ACR>Gunther wrote:I am sorry. How is that not a huge part in battle?

If this isn't a huge part of battle, lets remove penetration into enemy lines. We'll all line up like they did in the civil war era and then we could have loads of fun with that.

Ohh wait, they had SF type units back then.

The idea of SF's is not nec to directly kill the enemy, but take something away from them. That could then lead to their death.

For example, they are outnumbered and surrounded, but cant retreat because SF's blew their evacuation point up aka a bridge.

The SAS could play a big role in this game that they would play in the military.

Heres a no brainer.... Destroying key AA pieces.

After all we are talking about the Special Air Service. This is what these boys were put on this planet for no? Aiding in the RAF.

Take a rifleman and an engineer, and drop behind enemy lines... BAM! - instant special force.

They're not special forces because they have cool guns, but because they perform special missions. If you include special forces classes in the game, you have no guarantee that players choosing them will go pick them and run off to the frontlines with the everyone else... Just look at how specops get used right now - people just use them for L33T PWNING on the frontline. That's the point. Special forces operate forward of the FEBA, and do not intermix with the rest of the grunts.

BetterDeadThanRed · Post by **BetterDeadThanRed** » 2007-06-16 18:30

I'm not against using the BF:SF SAS and SEAL outfits for an extraction game, so long as the correct weapons are used.

Post by **eggman** » 2007-06-16 18:51

proper modelling of an SF unit as a full blown faction would require at least 2 things:
1. objective mode
2. ability to have a forced unbalance of team #s

I am not aware of any way to do #2 and, as a result, it pretty much hobbles the idea to the extent that it would just be "uber leet guys with cool stuff" versus "uber leet guys with cool stuff". Or way too many "uber leet guys with cool stuff" versus far too few "not so leet guys with crappy stuff" for it to be realistic or entertaining.

BetterDeadThanRed · Post by **BetterDeadThanRed** » 2007-06-16 18:58

Well said. I supose this idea could be put on ice until a way around that is discovered.