Smart weapons

General discussion of the Project Reality: BF2 modification.
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Post by -=ToD=-KNIFE »

With what the Devs Plan to Do with Giving ALL Fighters LGM can be Called un Realistic, but if you want Balance you Must Sacrifice. On the Topic on Laser Guided Munitions there should be a Dedicated Aircraft for this, it would be annoying on a Map with 2 Fighters, 1 for Each Team for 1 to be on a Air Superiority Mission and the Other Co-Ordinating with a FAC and Not Doing air to Air Combat therefore leaving His Team With No Air Control, anyone else seeing this as a Promblem?
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caboose wrote:Ive been playing project reality for a few weeks and it is by far the best mod for BF2 I've seen. I was just wondering if there were going to be smart bombs like the ones in desert storm. That would be awesome. But if they're like the ones in vanilla just don't even bother :roll: . Cause for some reason the f-15 and su-30 ect. had 16 of them and they might hit 1/4 of the time. Maybe if they just worked like the sidewinder and you just got them to fire at the heat produced by vehicles instead. Anyways just a thought. Keep up the good work!
I would like 16 Small-diameter bombs on the F-15. The pilot only has control of the Air-to-Air weapons and the chain gun. The gunner has laser-guided weapons capable of hitting a UAZ directly (MEC support vehicle) at 10,000 alt. :fryingpan :

This would require the same kind of communication between crew as the choppers do because you need to be in a pylon turn over the target to be effective at high altitude.
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-=ToD=-KNIFE wrote:With what the Devs Plan to Do with Giving ALL Fighters LGM can be Called un Realistic, but if you want Balance you Must Sacrifice. On the Topic on Laser Guided Munitions there should be a Dedicated Aircraft for this, it would be annoying on a Map with 2 Fighters, 1 for Each Team for 1 to be on a Air Superiority Mission and the Other Co-Ordinating with a FAC and Not Doing air to Air Combat therefore leaving His Team With No Air Control, anyone else seeing this as a Promblem?
Firstly, take a quick look at the jets in vBF2 and PR: jets like the F-35B, EuroFighter 2000/Typhoon, the F/A-18 Hornet can all, IRL, take a variety of Air-Ground ordanance, including LGB/LGMs.

As for the issue of a single jet per team on some maps, any pudknocker who spends so long peering down at the mud that he leaves the skies filled with an enemy jet is likely to end up getting waxed by that very same jet- the priority for BOTH pilots in the situation you outlined is to remove the biggest threats to them. Namely: 1) Enemy Aircraft and 2) Enemy AAA vehicles. Both these should be hit before they start on an aggresive bombing campaign!
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'[R-PUB wrote:Masaq']Firstly, take a quick look at the jets in vBF2 and PR: jets like the F-35B, EuroFighter 2000/Typhoon, the F/A-18 Hornet can all, IRL, take a variety of Air-Ground ordanance, including LGB/LGMs.

As for the issue of a single jet per team on some maps, any pudknocker who spends so long peering down at the mud that he leaves the skies filled with an enemy jet is likely to end up getting waxed by that very same jet- the priority for BOTH pilots in the situation you outlined is to remove the biggest threats to them. Namely: 1) Enemy Aircraft and 2) Enemy AAA vehicles. Both these should be hit before they start on an aggresive bombing campaign!
True, you would want to attain air superiority and do a good amount of SEAD first, but these LGBs woud help a lot as the pilot could fly @ 10,000 m.(30,000 ft.) and it would be invulnerable to at least ground AA while the gunner could lase bombs onto the AA. Also, targets could be designated by the SOFLAM.

BTW, could we make the jet LGB cams so they pick up infra-red signals (troops, fires, the sun, and running vehicles)?

And please give the fighters 2km long range radar!
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I am a Plane Nut i know they use the LGB and LGM but i meaning about the MEC Mig-29. But im hopeing for a Balance or a Dedicated Aircraft as you cannot Expect them Back the the Nuy vBf2 Standereds of 6 Missiles and 2 Bombs?? HAH! The Thing woudnt even fly with that amount, Eg a EU2000 It would maybe Carry 4 Bombs and 2 Drop tanks but would Not Carry any Effective Air-to-Air Armament Except maybe its Gun, Vive versa with Air-to-Air and Air-to-Ground.
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Post by Red Halibut »

The EU2000 in Precision A/G can carry 9 LGBs Plus laser pod
Alternatively it could carry 6 + Drop Tank on the Centre plus 2 SRAAMs on the outer pods.

The bombs can be Paveway II or III (GBU-24) or JDAMs, and use the LITENING LGP.

FOr reference:

The Typhoon has 13 external stations for weapons and fuel, 4 on each wing and 5 on the fuselage with a total payload of some 6500kg (this may now be 7500kg+).

All wing mounted missiles are launched from GEC developed missile pylons, or Wing Pylon Station Units (WPSU). The two outboard-most rails are for the exclusive use of Short Range Air to Air Missiles (SRAAMs). All of the pylons contain sophisticated electronics forming the last link in the ACS. The pylon systems, featuring MIL-STD-1760 databuses are responsible for arming, releasing and maintaining the attached ordnance. In addition to the wing pylons there are four conformal recessed troughs under the fuselage for the exclusive use of Medium Range Air to Air Missiles (MRAAMs). These mounts were designed for an AMRAAM class missile but the front two stations can accept both the British Sky Flash and Italian Aspide systems. In total the basic Typhoon configuration can carry, in various combinations, up to 10 missiles, two more than the U.S. F-22 Raptor and the same as an Su-35/30 in basic configurations.

http://www.eurofighter-typhoon.co.uk/Eu ... apons.html
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So far in BF2 missiles are usless against aircraft.
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Post by -=ToD=-KNIFE »

Least Someone can Copy all that from a Wiki or somthing. Usually though you will Find the Tornado Gr4's doing the Ground Attack missions as they are More Suited to the task. But the MEC Mig-29 cannot Use the Smart Weapons like that it can only Carry its Air-to-Airs and maybe two Small Dumby or Cluster Bombs. There is a Version of the Mig-29 Suited to Ground Attack but t can only Really Carry 1 or 2 Extra Bombs. But Hey not all Aircraft Gotta be the same right? I mean like the Su-25T is carrying air to airs atm.
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Damn Stupid Button Double Posted Me
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Post by Red Halibut »

Knife, I copied it from the link I gave at the bottom of my post. Sometimes I think that a little C&P, judiciously inserted, can help to clarify matters.
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