Is the prevalence of optical enhancements on assault rifles realistic?

Apheirox · Post by **Apheirox** » 2007-06-23 09:59

Do most modern day infantry forces have optical enhancements on their assault rifles?

Harrelson · Post by **Harrelson** » 2007-06-23 10:43

this prevalcence has ruined the game for me. you are at such a massive disadvantage if you choose a kit without a scope. esp for brit and mec weapons

everybody goes with the scoped rifle in order to shoot targets that are far away

if i had my way i would remove jets and the scoped rifles except for spec ops only.

Seriously what is the point of jets? a fine balance that exists between infantry and armor, jets arent needed.

jackal22 · Post by **jackal22** » 2007-06-23 10:52

i have to admit ive been feeling it too and that with just 0.5, 0.6 will be a lot more 'scoppy'

its a bit annoying how you will make a squad and 4/6 go rifle man for scope even though we need a medic or light at kits

[SAF]stal20048 · Post by **[SAF]stal20048** » 2007-06-23 11:10

jets are needed for when someone needs specific targetting on a position were armour cannot reach.

however this relies on teamwork, the skill of the pilots, and more the pilots 'professionalism', as in he doesn't just comb the desert and rape targets, but does commanders and squads bidding.

this is why i believe we need some sort of designation system for squad to air communication, and i think the devs are working on something (correct me if im wrong).

Also, the new 0.6 jets take skill to fly, as there are so many threats such as accurate hand held AA, although i have to say the Bradley and co arent good at all (only good against helicopters).

also, planes are cool

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-06-23 12:00

Harrelson wrote:this prevalcence has ruined the game for me. you are at such a massive disadvantage if you choose a kit without a scope. esp for brit and mec weapons

everybody goes with the scoped rifle in order to shoot targets that are far away

if i had my way i would remove jets and the scoped rifles except for spec ops only.

Seriously what is the point of jets? a fine balance that exists between infantry and armor, jets arent needed.

Well, stop playing the damn SF kit and switch to Rifleman. Give this to SF, give that to SF :/

Could almost say the N word...

bezoar · Post by **bezoar** » 2007-06-23 12:03

to answer your question, yes. most modern infantry use optics instead of iron sites, for the same reason you want to use them in game.

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-06-23 12:29

Well the US do get 4x zoom ironsights for their riflemen's M16s to make up for the lack of scope

gazzthompson · Post by **gazzthompson** » 2007-06-23 12:40

insurgents get SVD aswell , and mosin , so dose milita

if anything we need more scoped , i hardly ever see a brit without a SUSAT or a US without a ACOG , of course some dont have em but on the hole they do , but for balance reason its ok as it is.

Brummy · Post by **Brummy** » 2007-06-23 12:41

Heavy AT for the Win! I hate all other kits lol, I love Heavy AT

ArmedDrunk&Angry · Post by **ArmedDrunk&Angry** » 2007-06-23 12:43

Well in close up fights, like Mestia I prefer Iron SIghts as the optics eat up your field of vision.

Jimmy_Smack · Post by **Jimmy_Smack** » 2007-06-23 12:53

Like above, I am perfectly fine with ironsights on Mestia. Especially the AK's because of the open top. I just drop it down a bit to look then bring it up to fire. I think the scopes are fine as they are right now.

youm0nt · Post by **youm0nt** » 2007-06-23 14:20

What is this?! First you guys wanted scoped rifles... Now you guys don't want them?! You guys are a pest to the devs, lol...

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-06-23 14:27

War is hell.

Hardtman · Post by **Hardtman** » 2007-06-23 14:29

I can only speak for the german Bundeswehr,but there the G36 is the standart issue-rifle,and it has a reflex-sight(red-dot) as well as a 3x(?) scope for effective engagement up to 800 meters.

So yes,some armies have scoped weapons as a standard.

Apheirox · Post by **Apheirox** » 2007-06-23 14:54

The M16 is only a placeholder while they work on new artworks. That is why it gets unrealistic 4x ironsight zoom.

Apheirox · Post by **Apheirox** » 2007-06-23 14:56

I presume that means you use it against infantry. You need to be destroying armour - not getting into firefights with infantry. If that is what you do you are failing your team.

Maverick--113 · Post by **Maverick--113** » 2007-06-23 14:58

Strategist wrote:The M16 is only a placeholder while they work on new artworks. That is why it gets unrealistic 4x ironsight zoom.

And that zoom has gotten me killed in cqb waaay to often.

Apheirox · Post by **Apheirox** » 2007-06-23 15:14

Do not use the scope in CQB. You would not in real life either, so why try in the game? All the rifles are extremely accurate while not scoped in in 0.6. You can easily take out targets on full auto at thirty metres even from the standing position.