Add Track IR support to PR

0rpheus · Post by **0rpheus** » 2007-06-29 11:58

acadiancrusader wrote:yup, i'm making one. gonna be sweet for ArmA, but also for Insurgency! woot!!

Can you post the link with the tutorial about making one yourself? I'd like to try this one out, it sounds awesome!

tupla_s · Post by **tupla_s** » 2007-06-29 12:12

0rpheus wrote:Can you post the link with the tutorial about making one yourself? I'd like to try this one out, it sounds awesome!

Buy webcam if you don't have yet. Buy cam2pan and download NewView 37d somewhere. Then just find a led or something to attach to a cap or headphones. Head lamp works too, but best would be to have a bright IR-led and negative film in front of the webcam as a IR-filter.

Cam2Pan http://www.mousevision.com/game/index.htm
NewView 37d http://files.filefront.com/NewView+37d+ ... einfo.html

EDIT: Uploaded newView to filefront.

0rpheus · Post by **0rpheus** » 2007-06-29 13:10

tupla_s wrote:Buy webcam if you don't have yet. Buy cam2pan and download NewView 37d somewhere. Then just find a led or something to attach to a cap or headphones. Head lamp works too, but best would be to have a bright IR-led and negative film in front of the webcam as a IR-filter.

Cam2Pan http://www.mousevision.com/game/index.htm
NewView 37d http://files.filefront.com/NewView+37d+ ... einfo.html

EDIT: Uploaded newView to filefront.

Oh wow, thanx dude!

krekc · Post by **krekc** » 2007-06-30 14:56

That's a pretty cool little mod there indeed. By the by eggman, see that the NP geezah has pm'ed you on thier message board, just incase it slipped your mind to cehck back again!

Post by **eggman** » 2007-06-30 16:59

I am in contact with the Natural Point folks. We'll look at trying it out in a v0.7 alpha build to see if we can get it to work.

xseeyax · Post by **xseeyax** » 2007-07-01 10:47

ReaperMAC wrote:Wow, thats cool. But wouldnt it be more annoying to have to turn your head away from the screen when wanting to look at a certain direction?

No you can set the sensitivity

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-07-01 10:53

thats good news eggman. i have trackir, and it kicks arse in armed assault (when i can be bothered to set it up, and get it all working)

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-07-01 13:29

I think especially for the choppers this would be awesome.

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-07-01 14:17

HellDuke wrote:As far as SP goes: knock yourself out...

But I'd think that in MP such a thing shouldn't be allowed (if it were possible to do things like in that vid) since that would be giving an unfair advantage to those that have it. Unless of course there would be servers where this thing would be required and in others you couldn't use it.

I don't see the problem, it'd only be with aircraft wouldn't it?

Post by **Spearhead** » 2007-07-01 16:24

'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']I am in contact with the Natural Point folks. We'll look at trying it out in a v0.7 alpha build to see if we can get it to work.

If you need anyone to test something with TrackIR. I do have TrackIR 4 here.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-07-01 16:29

HellDuke wrote:As far as SP goes: knock yourself out...

But I'd think that in MP such a thing shouldn't be allowed (if it were possible to do things like in that vid) since that would be giving an unfair advantage to those that have it. Unless of course there would be servers where this thing would be required and in others you couldn't use it.

thats like stopping people from playing because their laser mouse they use is more sensitive than some one with a old ball mouse, or some one that uses 5.1 speakers over 2 speakers

Post by **eggman** » 2007-07-01 17:14

If we can make it work, we'll be including it in PR. We won't trade off Punkbuster support for TrackIR support, but if we can get it working and not screw up PB I'll be buying a TrackIR hehe. Always loved those things, but have never owned one.

krekc · Post by **krekc** » 2007-07-01 17:38

Couldn't ask for more than that, I agree completely about the PB tradeoff too high a price. The whole prospect of TR working properly is very exciting! if you need a hand to beta test it, i'd be glad to donate some help if needed np, though i'm sure you have it undercontrol..

xseeyax · Post by **xseeyax** » 2007-07-01 19:07

HellDuke wrote:As far as SP goes: knock yourself out...

But I'd think that in MP such a thing shouldn't be allowed (if it were possible to do things like in that vid) since that would be giving an unfair advantage to those that have it. Unless of course there would be servers where this thing would be required and in others you couldn't use it.

Since when did having more technology constitute an "unfair advantage"? By this rationale, those with higher end graphics cards and bigger monitors shouldn't be allowed to play because "it wouldn't be fair." Whether or not you choose to use technology available is up to you and your wallet. Don't hold everyone else back because you see it as "unfair."

'[R-MOD wrote:Thunder']thats like stopping people from playing because their laser mouse they use is more sensitive than some one with a old ball mouse, or some one that uses 5.1 speakers over 2 speakers

Oh wow I didn't see your post until after I posted already. Looks like we're on the same page though.

xseeyax · Post by **xseeyax** » 2007-07-02 05:35

tupla_s wrote:Buy webcam if you don't have yet. Buy cam2pan and download NewView 37d somewhere. Then just find a led or something to attach to a cap or headphones. Head lamp works too, but best would be to have a bright IR-led and negative film in front of the webcam as a IR-filter.

Cam2Pan http://www.mousevision.com/game/index.htm
NewView 37d http://files.filefront.com/NewView+37d+ ... einfo.html

EDIT: Uploaded newView to filefront.

What is negative film is that like for cameras? just go down to the store and by a camera?

tupla_s · Post by **tupla_s** » 2007-07-02 09:00

xseeyax wrote:What is negative film is that like for cameras? just go down to the store and by a camera?

If you have some old photos the negatives usually came with them
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ivfilm.jpg

TF6049 · Post by **TF6049** » 2007-07-03 04:34

El_Vikingo wrote:You still need to hold down CTRL.

You can set up a fake TrackerIR with a webcam, some filter, and a diode, and then use mouse emulation.

Maybe Not. In the Choppers you can press buttons to have certain viewpoints and yet you can control the chopper.

Maybe we could make the jets so they could be controlled when using CTRL...

TF6049 · Post by **TF6049** » 2007-07-03 04:36

krekc wrote:Couldn't ask for more than that, I agree completely about the PB tradeoff too high a price. The whole prospect of TR working properly is very exciting! if you need a hand to beta test it, i'd be glad to donate some help if needed np, though i'm sure you have it undercontrol..

Uh, VOIP is just as unfair as TrackIR.

Wasteland · Post by **Wasteland** » 2007-07-03 06:04

'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']If we can make it work, we'll be including it in PR. We won't trade off Punkbuster support for TrackIR support, but if we can get it working and not screw up PB I'll be buying a TrackIR hehe. Always loved those things, but have never owned one.

Haha. I'm glad this thread popped up. I've debated long and hard over whether or not to get TIR. So far I've said no, thinking that since only one of my two games uses it (ArmA), I can't justify the expenditure. But if PR supported it, I'd definitely buy it.

Forgive me for being an incredibly stupid n00b, but doesn't PR use a different anti-hacker service from vBF2? I thought we used PunkBusted as opposed to PunkBuster or something like that? Maybe some evil elves whispered that in my ear during one of my more recent flashbacks or something. But if it is true, would it be possible to contact PB (whether "er" or "ed") about removing that limitation for PR?

Add Track IR support to PR

would you like to see trackIR support in Reality