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Airborne91 · Post by **Airborne91** » 2007-07-08 01:01

OK here goes. I've heared A LOT of peple talk about sniper kits and "The Bush" by being no matter where you are you can be seen because you stick out like a sore thumb. I think we can resolve this by getting rid of the sniper kits altogether on urban only maps, and just having a Designated Marksman kit with the same type rifles and equipment as snipers without "The Bush" effect. However, on maps where there is a combination of urban and forested areas you can have the option of both without being confined to a certain class. For example, the Designated Marksman could have a slightly shorter range rifle such as a modified M-16 with a scope and the Sniper could have the standard M-24. Now I don't really know if this will resolve anything or not but after all it's just an idea...

Spartan452 · Post by **Spartan452** » 2007-07-08 01:41

lets just get rid of DMR all together since the rifleman except for the USMC is basically a DMR, but that should be fixed sooner when the USMC gets a weapons upgrade via the M16a4 w/ acogs

Airborne91 · Post by **Airborne91** » 2007-07-08 01:44

oh uh...sorry. LOL!

daranz · Post by **daranz** » 2007-07-08 01:52

But M14s are awesome... Even if they suck in game, they're awesome in real life. We can't get rid of them.

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-07-08 01:54

daranz wrote:But M14s are awesome... Even if they suck in game, they're awesome in real life. We can't get rid of them.

The M14 sucks in game?

7.62x51 with a 9x zoom?

Project Reality?

game?

where am I?

Teek · Post by **Teek** » 2007-07-08 02:11

daranz wrote:But M14s are awesome... Even if they suck in game, they're awesome in real life. We can't get rid of them.

since when? I was 60-25 in half a Tournament Round with the M14!

Liking the new sig Jaymz.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2007-07-08 04:38

M14 DMR owns!

ReaperMAC · Post by **ReaperMAC** » 2007-07-08 05:01

Cerberus wrote:M14 DMR owns!

QFT

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-07-08 08:30

The M-14 is good, but the G3SG/1 is going to doosh it in its 'orrid little face!

KP · Post by KP » 2007-07-08 08:43

M14 DMR pwns. Period. But not as much as the G3SG/1 will, simply because it's a sexy H&K weapon.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-07-08 09:02

Geez, you bunch really know, how to derail threads. Back on topic

Airborne91 wrote:I think we can resolve this by getting rid of the sniper kits altogether on urban only maps, and just having a Designated Marksman kit with the same type rifles and equipment as snipers without "The Bush" effect.

Wasnt this already implemented in previous releases of PR? I swear, I saw a code somewhere in the .con files...
Would be nice, if we had that, so small/urban maps wouldnt be sniper infested

Danthesandman · Post by **Danthesandman** » 2007-07-08 11:11

na keep the sniper kits for urban areas. just need a better camo suit. maybe a squared of one. a transformer custome that turns into an airconditioner or rubbish bin.

i know, i know. i thought it was funny.

arneboe · Post by **arneboe** » 2007-07-08 12:44

KP wrote:... simply because it's a sexy H&K weapon.

my thoughts exactly

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-07-08 18:23

The Devs are working on the distance the ghillie suit will render, aswell as other kits and their weapons.

Post by **Masaq** » 2007-07-08 20:21

It's the M40 I have issues with. Each shot seems to take about 2 minutes (dramatic over-exaggeration, I know) to leave the gun and get to the point you're aiming at.

Long Bow · Post by **Long Bow** » 2007-07-09 15:23

I have yet to play a map that would be considered strictly urban and will be included in 0.6. Al basrah has an urban centre but obviously also contains a large outlying area, same with EJOD. With the bigger maps and view distance the sniper could still be used on all the maps. If it is removed its not the end of the world but the justification shouldn't be the urban environment IMO.

daranz · Post by **daranz** » 2007-07-09 15:33

'[R-DEV wrote:Jaymz']The M14 sucks in game?

I didn't say it sucks. The guy didn't want it in the game, so I assume he thought it sucks.

I don't think I ever got to fire the thing in an online server. Most of the time they're already in use by a failed sniperwhore, as a sniper replacement kit, or I'm the only damn medic within 10 miles, and I feel too responsible to grab another kit.

Seriously, I treat sniper, marksman kits and jets as unplayables in PR.

Airborne91 · Post by **Airborne91** » 2007-07-09 17:47

Hey now don't put words in my mouth. I never said the M-14 sucked I'm just mearly pointing out that if anyone would play sniper instead of DMR they must think that sniper has a better weapon. Personally I never play either class I just dont like shrubs running around everywhere.