IED suggestion

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-07-20 19:18

Everyone know's those Gaselin Barrel's " orrange/red " ones, which you can shoot at and it goes of... anyways to my point

If the insurgent's could have a pickup kit, including

Pistol
Gaselin Drum..not to big but bigger then the normal moltov...
Detonator device
Detonator Control
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You throw down the Gaselin drum behind something, like a wall, close to a wall.. or wherever u wanna place it... After that has been done, you throw a Detonator device on it, its a little "c4" bomb or w/e you throw on the drum... as you walk away... your detonator control in the hand " Cell phone " maybe ? and as a vehicle passes by, you detonate it... the drum goes off " Hells flames " lols.. just like a giant moltov... this moltov could also be destroyed by coalition forces, with c4,light AT etc..

Comments ?

Leo · Post by **Leo** » 2007-07-20 20:15

Not a bad idea. I think the detonator device should be on there in the beginning, to make it simpler. It should also explode from gunfire hitting it.

Not sure if anything like this is used IRL though.

vanity · Post by **vanity** » 2007-07-20 20:21

A gasoline container isn't really explosive by itself. Even with a small detonator you're really not going to get a good explosion out of it. You need something to immediately disperse that fuel into aerated droplets and then ignite it. Even then, it's just fire. There's no shrapnel or powerful concussion wave.

This was proven (unwittingly) at Glasgow recently.

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-07-20 20:22

I seen videos where they put gaselin underkneeth a IFV, and blow it up...

it should just work like a giant Molotov thats my point

vanity · Post by **vanity** » 2007-07-20 20:23

Link me, please. Not that I doubt you, I wanna see what goes on.

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-07-20 20:28

I dont have the link atm, but there was a Bradley in an alley, the insurgents were videorecording the incident... as a guy placed a gaselin bottle underkneeth.. and some other explosives...

my point is to make it seperate.. make it destroyable by coalition forces.. make it something the coalition forces will FEAR... one of those detonating underkneeth your tanks your pretty much fucked up

vanity · Post by **vanity** » 2007-07-20 20:29

I've seen the video you're talking about. We already have something like that in the game with IEDs though. Are you looking for something more powerful?

Hardtman · Post by **Hardtman** » 2007-07-20 20:32

Something like a deployable flame/napalm bomb,right?

It sounds funny,but to be honest I don't really see the benefit of this.
I mean, we already have IEDs that are made of explosives, they are more effective against vehicles and people alike.

So,why use a barrel of gasoline that neither has shrapnel nor a ratio weight/effect nearly as good as conventional explosives.

So let'sjust stick to good ol IEDs.

Afaik a cell-phone like clicker is in work.

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-07-20 20:34

just wanting things more realistic, as we CANNOT destroy current IED's.. with my idea you should be able to..

if you READ above i said... a bigger molotov road side bomb.. instead of a cocktail... ?

IED's isnt everything.. this would be a pickup kit.. just add's more realism.. more fun... theres no thermal grenades yet.. its just my sudjestion think whatever u want about it..

I think this is the video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hk97f-akvWI

Hardtman · Post by **Hardtman** » 2007-07-20 21:44

Swe_Olsson wrote:just wanting things more realistic, as we CANNOT destroy current IED's.. with my idea you should be able to..

if you READ above i said... a bigger molotov road side bomb.. instead of a cocktail... ?

IED's isnt everything.. this would be a pickup kit.. just add's more realism.. more fun... theres no thermal grenades yet.. its just my sudjestion think whatever u want about it..

I think this is the video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hk97f-akvWI

Although shootable IEDs would be nice, I still don't really see the necessity of Fuel-bombs.
I am not an expert in this area, but I think that a barrel of fuel or some mix including fuel would not reach the effect that a bundle of real explosives has.
I mean,although that Bradley burned quite badly, you do not really see how much damage was done, I guess it wasn't very much,since most of the bombs effect consisted of heat,not of a blast.

Ergo, you would use such fuel bombs only if you have nothing better at hand.

But apparently the insurgents we have here in PR are "sponsored" by somebody with enough money to easily get his hands on RPGs,AKs,PKMs and IEDs en masse.

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not deliberately trying to drag you suggestion down, but I think that most, if not all suggestions of this kind require some sort of an Advocatus Diaboli to show their weaknesses and, so to say, the other side of the coin.

TexLax · Post by **TexLax** » 2007-07-20 22:00

Swe_Olsson wrote:just wanting things more realistic, as we CANNOT destroy current IED's.. with my idea you should be able to..

if you READ above i said... a bigger molotov road side bomb.. instead of a cocktail... ?

IED's isnt everything.. this would be a pickup kit.. just add's more realism.. more fun... theres no thermal grenades yet.. its just my sudjestion think whatever u want about it..

I think this is the video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hk97f-akvWI

that video is fake, for several reasons... the american army does not leave a vehicle that expensive laying around with no one near it... and second, i don't see any US military around...

ExOps_Mercenary · Post by **ExOps_Mercenary** » 2007-07-20 22:07

hey who knows the tank crew might have been taking a piss!?

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-07-20 22:21

its just a FREAKING example you jerks

baptist_christian · Post by **baptist_christian** » 2007-07-20 22:31

IEDs? how about just an unexploded artillery shell

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-07-20 22:38

the model is being worked on, but my sudjestion is just a giant molotov... if people put that throught your THICK skulls... the molotov is just gaselin.. correct ? and something else.. READ read and read again..

Raniak · Post by **Raniak** » 2007-07-20 23:14

I like this idea, maybe some way to "push" it so it roll and then you detonate it when it's under the enemy vehicle ?

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-07-20 23:29

no you guys got the wrong aspect lol.. i probaly explained fuck up... what i mean is the example of those red gaselin bottles... in game right now.. once you shoot them they expload right? thats something similar.. but smaller... that could be carried by a trooper... it could be a big bottle.. placed underkneeth a APC,Tank or just on the road.. and as the vehicles pass's or whenever u feel like it.. you detonate it.. its just a bigger molotov... stationary ..

Raniak · Post by **Raniak** » 2007-07-21 00:17

Swe_Olsson wrote:no you guys got the wrong aspect lol.. i probaly explained fuck up... what i mean is the example of those red gaselin bottles... in game right now.. once you shoot them they expload right? thats something similar.. but smaller... that could be carried by a trooper... it could be a big bottle.. placed underkneeth a APC,Tank or just on the road.. and as the vehicles pass's or whenever u feel like it.. you detonate it.. its just a bigger molotov... stationary ..

That's what I was talking about too, I would like to have molotov that can roll under vehicles... same for grenades, a way to make them "roll" would be cool

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-07-21 01:05

All the swear words!

Im sure C4 and IEDs will have their effects changed for 1.0v.

Hardtman · Post by **Hardtman** » 2007-07-21 07:25

I am quite sure that by now everyone knows what you meant. But would you mind to state something concerning the points I brought up against this earlier?

It doesn't really pay to just ignore any points against your suggestion if you want to see it ingame.