Zatar overhaul?

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-07-23 12:27

Ive played this map for a couple of times now and it seems, that 2 CAS jets on each side are 1.) overkill and 2.) useless due the map size and view distance.
Whenever I flew in the A10 I had to constantly turn around, because of the map size and the fact, than I could only get a lock on something in a split second

I understand, that the 2 CAS jets are there to counter the mass of armor on each side, but I think they are useless, also people who use joysticks, fly slow and low - again becuase of the map size and view distance - and usually crash or get shot down by a tank.

I think, the Frogfoots and A10s should be removed and replaced with attack choppers
Also, how do you even rearm and land on that small airstrip with hills around??

MisterX · Post by **MisterX** » 2007-07-23 14:25

Mhhh i remeber some pilots which really pissed me of on zatar

I guess the key is to fly kinda slow and come from high above.

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2007-07-23 14:29

ya cobras and stuff would work better.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-07-23 20:57

I agree. While I have not flown, it feels too small to have heavy aircraft.

Sabre_tooth_tigger · Post by **Sabre_tooth_tigger** » 2007-07-23 21:14

Im biased towards helicopters anyway as I dont really do jets but I think a transport helicopter at least would help stir up the game with more flanking

Post by **IronTaxi** » 2007-07-24 00:33

we will take the jets out...it was a bit of an oversight since wi did the Zatar audit very early in the .6 development cycle..and then it kinda got stored and forgotten until the final stages..

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-07-24 00:42

IMO, I'd like to see LBs and MEC scout chopper the ONLY air assets, so no air cover, full metal carnage ftw

Post by **fuzzhead** » 2007-07-24 06:35

No air assets.

jackal22 · Post by **jackal22** » 2007-07-24 08:48

tbh i was never a fan of vanilla maps comming back, dalian i think is too un pr-able teamwork wise, have to say ive never played zatar yet.

imo jalabad should have been brought back instead, i played it on vanilla the other day and i was thinking wow this map would rock with pr kits anc vehicles.

you got a nice vehicle type battle with open ground followed by intense city fighting with small allyways and narrow streets.

Sabre_tooth_tigger · Post by **Sabre_tooth_tigger** » 2007-07-24 09:19

I'd like this map with proper attack helis if the planes are going, the oil pipelines provide excellent cover for smart tanks.

Jalalabad is a good vanilla map, my most played of all but its a bit compact compared to any pr map especially when they removed Inishail Forest from the game.
Not sure I could really see bunkers, etc working on this map. Great as an experiment but whose going to mod it

jackal22 · Post by **jackal22** » 2007-07-24 10:42

didnt think of bunkers lol or comander truck it would be a pain trying to move that thing. i would however like some sort of map in pr to resemble the city in jalabad because its so different to any others in game in any of the mods. everything is so close together that it would mean putting sand bags or razor wire down would create nice check points on roads that your team would controle.

i would like a more i guess street for street type map as opposed to block by block maps that most city maps are.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-07-24 12:48

jackal22 wrote:tbh i was never a fan of vanilla maps comming back, dalian i think is too un pr-able teamwork wise, have to say ive never played zatar yet.

imo jalabad should have been brought back instead, i played it on vanilla the other day and i was thinking wow this map would rock with pr kits anc vehicles.

you got a nice vehicle type battle with open ground followed by intense city fighting with small allyways and narrow streets.

Its Daquin, not Dalian...

Also, you have the PRfied vanilla maps avaiable for SP, you can play Jalabad USMC vs Insurgents, I think...

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-07-24 13:36

I don't get any maps in single player. Not that I play SP anymore.

Personally I thought Zatar was a great map once they PRified it. I don't get the message though -- why are we fighting over natural gas again?

Sabre_tooth_tigger · Post by **Sabre_tooth_tigger** » 2007-07-24 14:48

Theres been trouble between russia and the baltic states over natural gas

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-07-24 15:22

Expendable Grunt wrote:I don't get any maps in single player. Not that I play SP anymore.

Singe Player forums here, you could download them for 0.5...

Post by **fuzzhead** » 2007-07-24 15:27

im prety certain there will be no more vanilla maps converted to PR...

gulf of oman
zatar wetlands
daqing oilfields

they are there to fill out the map list a bit, and they dont take up too much space... i dont think they play too bad but they just dont seem too fresh..

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-07-24 15:31

Stalemate of stale maps

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2007-07-24 16:32

I would really like to see karkand that was my favored map in all of vBF2 until the grenade spammers ruined it

youm0nt · Post by **youm0nt** » 2007-07-24 17:08

Karkand won't work out. Mastuur City, Road to Jalalabad, and Dragon Valley... Mashtuur City can be nice with USMC vs MEC. Jalalabad with USMC vs insurgents, and Dragon Valley just for another PLA vs USMC map.

ReaperMAC · Post by **ReaperMAC** » 2007-07-24 17:14

Anyone try out Highway Tampa yet?