ziptie handcuff to use on civilians

charliegrs · Post by **charliegrs** » 2007-07-23 23:43

so the thought of knifing a civilian to "arrest" him just doesnt seem right to me. i mean you are not allowed to kill them but knifing looks like you are killing them. i dont know if its just a placeholder for now until the devs make up a better way to arrest them, but if i not i have a suggestion as how to make arresting civs more realistic.

ive seen many videos of US/british troops in iraq using plastic zipties to bind the hands of POWS/ civilians they catch in iraq and afghan. so maybe we can implement this in PR? heres how i think it could work and i think it would be pretty modeling/coding friendly

a new model would be needed of a ziptie and added to every soldiers inventory {dont replace the knife we still wanna stab people lol} when selected you would basically see the hand of your soldier holding the ziptie.

when a civ is encountered, you run up to him with the ziptie and "use" it, i dont know exactly what this would look like but i think maybe the best thing to do is make it look like your hands are lunging forward with the ziptie open to simulate trying to grab and cuff the civ.

when the civ is "hit" with the cuffs, he would be arrested, {actually he would die because it would take all his hit points like the knife does right now} very important though, is when he gets hit with the cuffs and "dies" that there be no blood, which i know is possible because there is no blood when you die in vanilla BF2. this would make it look more like he just got tackled and cuffed and not killed. then his body would lay there and disappear after a while.

and basically thats it. i think it would look alot more realisitc than the current system of arresting civs. theres 2 things that would make it look REALLY awesome but i doubt they are possible with the BF2 engine.

if after being arrested and falling to the ground, if the civs hands could be bound together behind his back. this would look awesome.
and if after being arrested a black hood would appear over the civs head. they currently do that to prisoners in iraq. but both of these i doubt are possible. anyway what do you think?

Post by **Dunehunter** » 2007-07-23 23:47

The knife is a placeholder for what you are describing I think.

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-07-24 01:43

Are they called "ZippieCuffs", or did I just make that up?

ArmedDrunk&Angry · Post by **ArmedDrunk&Angry** » 2007-07-24 02:25

The black hood thing would be cool but aside from the problems in coding and modeling it there might be some backlash on the "humanitarian" front.

charliegrs · Post by **charliegrs** » 2007-07-24 03:10

yeah i know what you mean especially since it would probably remind alot of people of abu graibh so yeah maybe the black hood idea isnt that good, anyway i didnt think it was all that possible.

SGT.JOKER · Post by **SGT.JOKER** » 2007-07-24 03:24

would the civi die after we use the zipcuffs or could we keep him as a pet? lol

charliegrs · Post by **charliegrs** » 2007-07-24 03:31

project pokemon

ArmedDrunk&Angry · Post by **ArmedDrunk&Angry** » 2007-07-24 03:33

well there is an idea for a map.
The insurgents land at Gitmo and try to free the prisoners.

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-07-24 03:43

and Chuck Norris can be there too?

charliegrs · Post by **charliegrs** » 2007-07-24 04:22

ok come people im looking for serious comments about this!

GrayeKnight · Post by **GrayeKnight** » 2007-07-24 04:27

i was thinking the same thing.

ziptie models, with the same action and damage as a knife

just they look like zipties. lol

SGT.JOKER · Post by **SGT.JOKER** » 2007-07-24 04:37

my reply was seriouse......

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-07-24 04:49

The following is currently being considered:

Non-lethal Shotguns
Zip-cuffs/Cable ties/whateveryoucallthem

charliegrs · Post by **charliegrs** » 2007-07-24 05:20

i read about the non lethal shotguns, and what i was wondering is wouldnt that limit who could arrest a civ? i mean not every soldier can have a shotgun you know. but they can all have ziptie handcuffs.

Cheesygoodness · Post by **Cheesygoodness** » 2007-07-24 06:24

'[R-DEV wrote:Jaymz']The following is currently being considered:

Non-lethal Shotguns
Zip-cuffs/Cable ties/whateveryoucallthem

Less lethal shotguns would be nice. I also believe if this is indeed in the game a beanbag like round for the M203 should be considered. Basically the same thing but it'll teach you to aim better.

Another add on would be a tear-gas round for the M203. (How many people can hit a person with a grenade? ACTUALLY HIT. Like you would need to with the beanbag round before suggested.) Because you can't sprint when you are teargased, (in Special forces anyway.) Allowing the solders to go in for the kaniffery or zippertying or whatever. Again don't know coding but it doesn't seem like something that would be to much of a problem since it is already in the battlefield 2 series. My two cents.

Nice to see my old idea still has some fire. ^^

Superior Mind · Post by **Superior Mind** » 2007-07-24 07:25

Another problem with the less than lethal shotguns is the only way they would work is by giving civilians very low health to begin with, this way they only do minimal damage to a combatant but do deadly damage to a civilian.

nillazsuck · Post by **nillazsuck** » 2007-07-24 18:33

How about a taser

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M26_Taser.jpg

hoc_xfirestormx · Post by **hoc_xfirestormx** » 2007-07-24 18:43

you should be able to pull down civilian's pants and spank them.

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-07-24 18:44

hoc_xfirestormx wrote:you should be able to pull down civilian's pants and spank them.

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