jets overpowered / anti-air underpowered

[tekkyy]

how hardcoded are the flares?

I know we can let flares be dropped one at a time
but is it possible to make it probablistic whether lock will be lost? (more flares higher chance of losing lock)

[Bob_Marley]

when you speak of the avenger,do you mean the M1097 Avenger?Cuz that is the U.S. primary land to air defense vehicle.
M1097 Avenger below:

No, I mean Emma Peel.



Of course I mean the M1097, you boob.

[Guerra]

One short volley of bullets from the A10 will take out any other air unit. It is very accurate, and very deadly.

The F16 or mig guns are no where as effective, and pretty much any good pilot can dodge missiles very well, so dogfighting between two talented pilots always ends in an old style gun war.

If an A10 gets behind the F16 for even a second, the F16 is dead. If the F16 gets behind the A10, there's a good chance the A10 will make it out alive.

and if he accepts the little duel, whoever wants to come can do so. I'll get fraps on or BF2 recorder or something.

[agentscar]

You can't battle a f-15 vs. A-10 cuz they're both u.s.,but since the MIG,has the same gun as the F-15,I'm cool with going against you in a MIG vs. you in an a-10...my name is agnt07 on xfire,we can batte in an empty kashan server sometime.And not the Frogfoot,the other MIG on Kashan,can't remember name at moment.

[Eddie Baker]

Isn't/hasn't the LAV-AD being/been phased out, along with the linebacker.

so the US AAV should be what, the Avenger?

No, the LAV-AD is still in service and will be until the Marines find something better.

The Avenger is used by both the Army and the Marines and is the primary short-range air defense vehicle for the Army.

[IAJTHOMAS]

Bonsai']Can you invite me to that show, please!

We need some BH's for spectators to sit in

[Outlawz7]

I think, we need some better AA missiles systems, cos the vanilla toilet-seat-with-two-useless-rockets can't do anything.

And I saw a damn Frogfoot flying around, doing swifter manouvers than me in the F16, while his engine was burning !!
And he kept flying for a whole hour with the burning engine

I thought, once your jet has been badly damaged, it should start losing HP and die out, not happily fly around with a 400m smoke trail from the burning engine...

Also, I shot 2 missiles from the Stinger launcher into a Frogfoot, missiles missed the Su25 and decided, they'll shoot down the F16 on his tail
Shouldnt missiles evade, once they miss and go some place away, rather then going in the same direction and locking onto the first thing they see?

[Guerra]

To be honest, no I have not yet tried 0.6, but if the A10 hasn't changed in power or fly dynamics, and if Air to Air missiles hasn't become more accurate, I think the A10 will take out the Mig 29.

I had two enemy migs on my tail while in an A10 in one map, can't remember the one, MEC vs USMC in some really large map, and I constantly took them out, they were actually pretty good pilots, they smoked me when I was in the F16, but the A10 cannon just did the trick. The only thing you have to do is sneak up behind them, which isn't too hard since theres no AA lock warning.

I've been working in the US all summer, and I'm going home Tuesday, so I'll download 0.6 Tuesday night and should be good to go on Wednesday.

My xfire is "drguerra"

add me if you want to dogfight or simply want some instruction with the SA7 or other hand held AA weapons. I've become proficient with AA kits.

[Outlawz7]

The M40, of course

Looking by the minimap, its A10 versus two MiGs and a Frogfoot...so umm...A10?

[HABO3]

Yesterday on Kashan I had a squad of two M1s, me in a Linebacker and someone else from another squad in another Linebacker, all in loose formation. I heard a Frogfoot coming, heard him beyond visual range and then saw him appear through the fog (very lucky, that almost never happens), and he comes in like less than 100m off the deck and waste the Linebacker in front of me before he could even get two shots out of his cannon, by that point (this is all going very fast) I had him zoomed in on my cross hairs and he applies rudder and lines me up and I managed to get off about 6 shots (I think I hit him with maybe 2 or 3 of those shots) from the cannon and launch 2 missiles (they both missed) before he wasted me with rockets and cannons. Then of course he swooped back around and destroyed my two tanks. TWO MOBILE AAs IN ONE PASS! Ridiculous.

[swiftdraw]

Whats that? Two MiGs and a Frogfoot vs. and A-10?

A-10 has a distinctive profile so thats easy

The one trailing smoke I'm thinking is a MiG 'cause of the wings don't look quite right for a F-16

Thing behind the A-10 shooting I'm 90% sure is the Frogfoot

The one one the left is definitely a MiG because of the two tail fins and the F-15 ain't in.

My money is on the A-10 eating dirt.

Edit: Yeah, look at the minimap, all three enemy jets spotted. 2 MiGs and a frogger

[pasfreak]

i wonder if stalling is possible, or if its hardcoded in bf2 that you can fly a slow *** plane straight up in the sky like it has a thrust to weight ratio of 3:1. it would definately fix the looping issue.

and how about putting the tunnel vision on when you pull hecka g's in jets?
that would fix the insta turn issue as well.

you see, its not just a gameplay issue, its a reality issue and needs to be fixed, so long as teh bf2 engine permits it.

[swiftdraw]

The speed difference between the fighters and CAS jets are much more pronounced in .7 than they were in .6 In addition, the fighters *do* have powerful cannons and can severely damage/destroy the A-10/Su-25 in only a few hits. They also maneuver ALOT better, which is why I'm wondering some people are claiming the CAS jets can turn better than them. There's no comparison in .6

1st: .7 is out ?!?!?! I thought .6 just hit?

2nd: CAS, by their mission profile, can out turn most other air combat jets. First, they're generally slower allowing for tighter turning. Second most are designed with maneuverability in mind so that the turn around time to get back to supporting the troops. This is why most grunts prefer the A-10 over the F/A-18 and the F-16, shorter turn around time. That and the A-10's gun is rather un-mistakable and makes for good morale on the allied side. I'll try to get solid numbers to support this shortly.

From Globalsecurity.org

The A-10/OA-10 have excellent maneuverability at low air speeds and altitude, and are highly accurate weapons-delivery platforms. The A-10 has half the turning radius of the Air Force's other primary CAS aircraft, the F-16. After initially leaving a target, the A-10 can turn around and hit the same target again, all in around 7 seconds

[ReaperMAC]

Wow, that sucks for the MEC team...