Dogfights

pasfreak · Post by **pasfreak** » 2007-08-04 21:47

Aight ladies, gents alike

this was brought up before i believe, but I just want to make things a little more clear with my issues and comments on the air portion of PR

I like the AA. Definately has precedence on the battlefield and it seems realistic in regards to how many ppl are shot down by AA IRL.

*however*

I'd like to be able to see the missle.
Like a big fat tower of smoke with a little spark on the end of it.
I was shot down today. I heard the alarm, deployed flares, looked back (didnt see anything) flew up into the clouds, nothing seemed to work. I switched to rear view and didn't see anything (alarm still goin) and a few secs. later my plane just blows up. I didn't see any missle nor a smoke trail.

and with fighting AG planes.
too many times, people have complained about a mig29 getting shot down by an a10. yes, they do indeed fly very slowly, but sadly, what they say is true. i saw it happen today.

I was also flying an f16 vs. a frogfoot. launched ALL of my missles into it. one of them hit. after that, I turned the radar off and went to guns. Nailed him right up the tail and once (or twice) on both wings. He was barely even smoking, and I was left with absolutely no ammo.
*adding to the above*
it actuallly would have been fine if I could actually SHOOT my guns. what happens is hte following

brrp, pssssssssssssssssssssssstttttttttttttttt. brrp, pssssssssssssssssssssssssssst. and then after about 10 of these intermittend "overheats", im out of ammo. what? come on. I don't know about IRL but it seems highly unlikely a pilot would only want to bring 100 rounds of ammunition into a dogfight, with a gun that shoots at over 2,000 rpm. INFANTRY carry more than that. And the "overheating" just pisses me off. I can barely squeeze off like 20 shots before i get the "pssssssssssssssst" sound for about 10 secs, while the slow as plane flies away.

to finish with the good though, i like the cloud cover on kashan, and everything looks rpetty realistic up there. planes flyin realistic speeds n such. looks good, just these issues myself and others have mentioned need a little fixin.

thx guys.

Specifications · Post by **Specifications** » 2007-08-04 21:49

good idea

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2007-08-04 21:55

I guess the 100 rounds for the Viper makes sense... in real life, M61 (on the Viper) has about 500 rounds in it and fires 6,000 rpm. With the BF2 engine, however, the maximum ROF allowed is 1,000. Damage should definitely be increased, though.

-dEpRaVe- · Post by **-dEpRaVe-** » 2007-08-05 06:22

Well, I believe 150 rounds is what the MiG carries in real life, isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong. And I, for one, DON'T think the AA is fine. Missles hit, it looks like, whenever the fu** they want to. Sometimes they've worked for me (splashed a MiG with a AIM-9 at a 90 degree angle....i was like 0.o THATS not supposed to happen in THIS game) but most times they don't (shot an AIM-120 at a F-16 that was flying straight and level....missile decides to veer off and hits a transport copter with a full squad in it.....) But the DEVs are working on Missile AI im sure. I'm sure the DEV's know what they're doing w/ the overheat; they wouldn't have designed the guns like that if they weren't realistic. TBH if you're spraying all the rounds you have whenever the bandit drifts into your crosshair, you'd run out of ammo in a good 30-45 seconds w/o the overheat, even in the 16, so besides being realistic (correct me if I'm wrong) they're a good regulator. About the missile issue....there seems to be a strange bug (happens w/ the grail from time to time. I get a lock (whenever i feel like using missles) and fire usually the short-range missles, but the missile simply and utterly, fails to even appear. I press the trigger, hear the WHOOSH......and absolutely nothing rushes out to even attempt to track the 16/MiG. Unless, of course, the missile has decided to veer wildly off-course and do several loop-de-loops into the most unlikely heat-source even before the damn thing leaves the launch pylon on my plane. Wouldn't be surprised.

BTW there's no boast forum on this board so before I forget......

Who won the Aviator award in Kashan today? Who won the Aviator award CAS_117 and Warehouse??? Who did????? I DID!!!!!!!!11!!!!1 ARARARARARARA all your jets r blong 2 me. =P Sorry for the off-topicness.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-08-05 07:30

"Tales from the PR Frontlines".