US/China Marine Exchange

Post by **Rhino** » 2007-08-21 18:22

HABO3 wrote:no other Marines have done as much fighting as the U.S. Marine Corps

the Royal Marines have been around since the 1800, sailing around on the wooden ships with sails in the bright red uniforms

Post by **PRC_Heavy_Z** » 2007-08-21 18:49

Do you guys realize that the exchange was not meant to be exactly a competition? it was more of a friendly get together.... not a "ha-ha we are better than you". Of course the "real" objective that PLAN Marines had in mind was to see how good their training was...

BTW:

please, don't turn this into a "China/UK/US sucks, we are better" thread (which seems to happen when ever someone post something about China...)

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-08-21 20:28

The British Portuguese French and Spanish were formed in the 1600s, out of them the most active has probably been the British Royal Marines.

The Royal Marines has the longest training period 9months or 32 weeks were as the USMC do 16 weeks

The USMC do 16 weeks training which is roughly the same as the British Infantry the US infantry do 9 weeks (I'm not downplaying the US forces in anyway)

By all the stats the Royal Marines are the best Marines in the world by far they should be compared to the US Seals instead of the USMC.

I dont no about the Chinese marines so i cannot comment on them but i doubt their training is as demanding as the Commando Course.

Post by **Dunehunter** » 2007-08-21 20:32

They do have a way bigger pool to select people from, and I assume that they are allowed to make their training/selection more dangerous and demanding.

{9thInf}Rainman · Post by **{9thInf}Rainman** » 2007-08-21 22:16

So what your saying is it takes twice as long to train a Brit than it takes to train an American.

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-08-21 22:24

No im saying American marines cant be compared to British marines.
Your Marines can barley compare to our Infantry...

HABO3 · Post by **HABO3** » 2007-08-21 22:44

robbo wrote:The British Portuguese French and Spanish were formed in the 1600s, out of them the most active has probably been the British Royal Marines.

The Royal Marines has the longest training period 9months or 32 weeks were as the USMC do 16 weeks

The USMC do 16 weeks training which is roughly the same as the British Infantry the US infantry do 9 weeks (I'm not downplaying the US forces in anyway)

By all the stats the Royal Marines are the best Marines in the world by far they should be compared to the US Seals instead of the USMC.

I dont no about the Chinese marines so i cannot comment on them but i doubt their training is as demanding as the Commando Course.

Well that's kinda hard to argue against since America wasn't even formed until the end of the 1700s.

It don't really matter anyways since most modern military doctrine was established in WWII where small arms, tanks, airpower and artilllery were put to full use. All that flintlock, swash buckling stuff is good for tradition and heritage and that's about it.

I really can never understand how you english guys always claim y'all are the best. I've found that everybody thinks that their countries military is the best but all y'all have done since the end of WWII, as an individual nation, as an unassisted military force, is kill a couple hundred Argentinian conscripts. Everything else has basically been political gestures to the American government and/or the UN (Korean War, Desert Storm, OIF, OEF). No doubt they train hard but all this about US=most money/My Country= best trained is such a weak arguement. I've heard it from people from so many different countries but none of them actively start wars, which in the long run is probably a good thing. I'm not putting down the sacrifice made by British soldiers, just looking at this in a combat history context.

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-08-21 22:52

Next time you look into British starting stand alone wars and say we've only had one....LOOK HARDER
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/main/index1.html

Last time i checked we won all our wars in Asia...

"I really can never understand how you english guys always claim y'all are the best"
Simply because we are the best trained...may not be the best supplied or the best numbers but we are the best trained best moral and THE best fighters in a combat zone.

Gyberg · Post by **Gyberg** » 2007-08-21 22:56

*sigh* Habo3 your missing the point....

And btw all real marines wear grean berets..... and if you dont get what i mean by that dont bother posting...

EDIT: *bracing for impact*

Post by **PRC_Heavy_Z** » 2007-08-21 23:15

PRC_Heavy_Z wrote:

Do you guys realize that the exchange was not meant to be exactly a competition? it was more of a friendly get together.... not a "ha-ha we are better than you". Of course the "real" objective that PLAN Marines had in mind was to see how good their training was...

BTW:

please, don't turn this into a "China/UK/US sucks, we are better" thread (which seems to happen when ever someone post something about China...)

did anyone bother to read? We get the point you guys love/are proud/(insert some emotion here)/ your motherland and your marines... plz wage this ego war somewhere else before the curse of the padlock and key smite thee.

HABO3 · Post by **HABO3** » 2007-08-21 23:23

I didn't say anywhere that the Marines are the "best" either, I said they've fought the hardest because I base that on casualties sustained in battle (WWII to present).

Half of those operations in the link you provided were barely even wars and only some of them involved the Royal Marines.

Sorry, I just get bored with hard-headed claims like robbo's which are easy to put forth when there's nothing to back it up except your own grand opinion.

{9thInf}Rainman · Post by **{9thInf}Rainman** » 2007-08-21 23:25

Get off your hoarse Heavy, you started It "but the PLAN Marines owned"

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-08-21 23:28

PRC_Heavy_Z wrote:did anyone bother to read? We get the point you guys love/are proud/(insert some emotion here)/ your motherland and your marines... plz wage this ego war somewhere else before the curse of the padlock and key smite thee.

Don't be silly Heavy Z! Everyone on here is just waiting for a thread where they can mercilessly lay into each other about how much better their nation is than everyone else's, while at the same time avoiding the fearsome wrath of R-DEV Gaz with an inconsipicuos thread title!

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2007-08-21 23:29

Locked for degeneration into an e-**** waving event where the primary contestants, once again, are those who have yet to step up to serve or whose claims of service cannot be independently verified.