Intentional Tk's

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epoch
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Post by epoch »

ZZEZ wrote:I don't think this is the right forum to discuss it, theres a server-forum with specific thread for TG server, there it would be best to post it instead of here where it will provoke flaming and bashing.

Evilhomer has already said this is not a TG-server bashing thread, so posting in that forum would be wrong.

He's said it's regarding his use of tanks. That's a general gameplay issue, and relevant to all servers.

As for forcing an intentional TK - there's never an excuse. If you have problems with a player - DEV or not - you don't go vigilante. You take it up with the server admins. If you force a TK you simply confirm your place in the shallow end of the gene pool.


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Post by Top_Cat_AxJnAt »

Petey wrote:we should butt-rape that fool.
and yes a one-man tank is very effective...another thing is topcat even registered in the forums here?




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THE FACTS OF DAY:


I created an armour squad. It was not lcoked.

I asked that all persons in the MEC main to kindly leave to tanks to the armour squad. However please note (A)

I met Matrox waiting for a tank.

I asked him if he was waiting for a tank. He said he was. I then asked him how long he had been waiting for a tank.

I cannot rembers his asnwer but i am damn sure he did not specify a lenght of time.

(A) THE purpose of this was to determine who had been waiting longer and therefore who deserved the tank more.


Shortly later 2 Tanks spwned.


I was expecting only 1 too spwn, therefore i thought that this would solve any confusion as to who deserved the tank more, becuase Matrox and Evilhomer coudl drive 1 tank and the ARmour squad the other.


However Matrox jumped in 1 tank and Evilhomer jumped in the other.

This ofcourse took me by suprise. I was somewaht confused and shcoked.

Before Matrox or Evilhomer drove their tank forwed, i was already standing infront of Matrox's tank by about 5m.

In my confusion i failed to move clear of Matroxs tank.

I was then hit by Matrox and killed.

Matrox was kicked from the server.

I then forgave Matrox for killing me.


Evilhomer and I exchanged a number of comments.

THe exact content of these, i cannot rember.

I did state though that i thought 2 man tanks were more effective than 1 man tanks.

I did state that i was also communicating with a TG admin. However my comments about him being drunk were a jke and i did state this breifly after by saiying "jkes". However it is possible EvilHomer left the server just before this.

SO:



1) - I made every attempt possible to commuciate with Matrox before i died. I tried to assess whether MAtrox and Evilhomer deserved the tank more than the Armour squad did. I did not recieve any precise and clear responces however this might be due to the fact he did not have the time to respond, considering the tanks spwned very shorty after i made the intial comment (1 min about).

2) - I did NOT run towards the front of Matroxs tank with the intent of being TKed by Matrox.

3) - I did NOT punish Matrox
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Post by Rhino »

if 2 tanks spawned and there was 3 crewman waiting then really I would have hoped that 1 tank would be a 2 man and the other 1 man, maybe waiting for a 2nd crewman IMO.
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Post by Cp »

Im kinda on top cats side here, due to what I have seen matrox and evilhomer do in the past,
I have seen them twice fooling around in the merlin on basrah, refusing to pick people up, replying with nonchalant answers and using it as a H-At platform.
On Sunset city I saw evilhomer taking the last vehicle in the main, An APC, Driving it in reverse while being chased by half the team, while they are asking for a pickup. Then drive straight over everyone teamkilling one or two, hitting a couple of walls before catching fire and exploding. I have screenshots of this.
This kind of behavior is something you would expect from an "nilla noob" not a Dev.

Im sure you two are great guys, but I would like to hear why your doing things like this.



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Post by mrmong »

haha if this is true your signatures really hypocritical hahahaha
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Post by G.Drew »

LOL, im laughing at the irony:
'Do not bite the hand that feeds you....that of the Devs'
xD

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Colfax
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Post by Colfax »

Outlawz wrote:EH, this guy?
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/member.php?u=2650

Ontopic, I really dislike people soloing tanks, but as it is now, sadly one-man tanks are more effective than crewed, so untill that gets fixed (crewed tanks get advantages over solo) we'll have to live with it...

But forcing TK is the worst kind of TK ever.../sick
How is solo tanking more effective then 2 man crews?
In my experience 2 man tank crew beats a solo crew ANYDAY. I wanna see a solo tank shoot on the move. I do understand the use of solo tanking if you don't have enough people to crew the tanks. But believe 2 man crews are far superior to solo crews.

On topic:

I wouldn't see letting the Armor squad have one of the tanks to be a big problem. But i think if 3 people waiting...2 tanks spawn its not fair for 2 guys to solo and one to just be out of luck. But me having the thought process that full crew tanks are more effective i would never be in this situation. I would full crew one with the friend and let Armor Squad have the other. Or i would join the Armor Squad.
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Post by Dirtboy »

Ok...here is my take on this!

While solo tanking is "Frowned" upon, it is not an official rule. I can see it being effective while defending. It is all situational and from what I read it was a valid tactic.

But at the same time, there was an Armor Sq. It was open and not full. So that was the only thing wrong I see in this picture.

Top Cat talked to me about it and explained everything. And I got to say that he wasn't biased at all. He did say that he did get in the way of the Tank and it was an Accidental TK. I believe that he didn't punish the Matrox, but at the same time got kicked for a negative score(Server kick...not mine).

All I got to say that in ways you both were in the right, but also in the wrong in some ways.

Gentlemen, I hope that we can all be civil about this and I hope you guys can work it out!
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Post by Rhino »

anyways I'm going to lock this topic as both EH and Matrox where wrong in some respects and so is top cat. TKs happen ingame and its nothing big, not worth to keep this topic going on anyways.
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