Bring back civvy shoot ticket punish

Heliocentric · Post by **Heliocentric** » 2007-09-16 13:37

Even if its just 1 ticket, bring back the punish the conventinal force gets for shooting civvies. As of right now? its actualy a fairly smart move to cap those greenshirts.

10 tickets was too much, how about 5?

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-09-16 13:55

5 is fine and MORE NEGATIVE SCORE
Right now, people can actually afford shooting civies, if they got a high score...

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-09-16 16:59

I got shot 15 times on Helmand as civilian, just standing on a roof and out of nowhere I hear a Spec Op gun burst and bam "j00 iz dead, brb in 10 sec"

Got few people on the other team kicked for negative score, then it was fine

Post by **Deadfast** » 2007-09-16 17:46

Jonny wrote: A HUGE point loss (like 40) would also be acceptable now that everyone knows what to do.

That's way too much.
Try to imagine, that on the start of round you'll accidentally kill a civilian. Bang, you were kicked for having a negative score. Not nice.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-09-16 18:02

I got -40 for destroying an already banged up dirtbike :/

Post by **Deadfast** » 2007-09-16 19:17

Jonny wrote:The same can be argued for a loss of 25 points at the beginning, but 25 is not as bad a loss later on in the game, so is less of a deterant once the game is going. It can also be argued for TKs, what if you accidentally run over a guy at the start of the round? should the loss of points be removed?

I'm not saying to remove the point penalization.
Just don't give so much -points that you're going to get kicked after one dead civvie (how much -points do you need to be removed anyway ?).

Post by **Spec** » 2007-09-16 19:33

perhaps if its possible not so much -points, but losing for example only 5 points but also XXX% of your score. Then it would not make a big difference how many points you have.

but imo about the civs there are a lot of fixes needed. It has nothing to do with realism that the forces try to arrest civilians, but in the same moment they climb, they can be killed, or you can kill them with vehicles. Seems not very realistic. Perhaps there should be a time limit or something, if the civ is in the water/ladder/whatever for more than x seconds, then they can get killed. For vehicles i agree, its your fault when you enter a vehicle as civilian. But i never understood why you are allowed to kill them with a vehicle... has nothing to do with realism imo. Also, you should be allowed to kill them when they already attack you with stones. like, if they hit one of your teammates or yourself with a stone, you are allowed to kill them for 1 minute or something... meh, the SWAT4 player in me is too strong