Helis

pasfreak · Post by **pasfreak** » 2007-09-20 05:29

As far as I can see, right now helis are the only problem in PR.
Yeah, there are a load of others but they are being fixed 'n such.

I have a lot of problem with helis, including the tipping over, the way they fly, etc.

For one, they should not fly like a jet. they are WAY to easy to barrel roll flip over, whether you're on the ground or in the air

A lot of them have balance issues, like the forward rolling thing that the small helis do, and sometimes they put you into an unrecoverable dive, where it pitches forward, and you're flying half upside down, nose to the ground, and you just go straight down and can't pull up.

and finally, something has to be done about spawns. I want more helis! In this game, they play an important role, but its really easy to get shot down! so you end up spawning back at base and waiting there for 10 minutes just for the transport chopper. eeegh.

if anything though, just decrease sensitivity on the roll (left to right) axis, so we dont do the flippy thingy when we try to land all the time.

Post by **Falkun** » 2007-09-20 05:33

I find that the sensitivity control on some mouses is a partial fix to some of these problems, especially problems stemming from oversensitivity of some choppers.

geogob · Post by **geogob** » 2007-09-20 05:52

actually, helis are much less a problem than jets IMO. The helo are probably closer to their real counterparts than any airplane are in this game.

Post by **Rhino** » 2007-09-20 05:56

the choppers and jets still need work and they are not final, there is always room for improvement and the BF2 engine aint easy to work with so all in good time

Post by **Psyrus** » 2007-09-20 08:51

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:the choppers and jets still need work and they are not final, there is always room for improvement and the BF2 engine aint easy to work with so all in good time

Every iteration (patch) has changed the helicopters slightly, and I've gotta say I've been happy with all the changes so far. The LBs lost a bit of maneuvering capability in 0.609 (or maybe I'm imagining things) but they're still GREAT!

Pretty much my only gripe is still how topheavy the LBs appear to be. Even a 2% incline (ie a small lump) on the ground causes them to tilt all the way over, only recoverable with some fancy spinning and rotor work. I'm not sure if it's realistic or fixable... but that's the only thing that gets me... doing high speed insertions only to land on a TINY incline, ending in me gunning it to stop flipping over... ending up as a carcass in a tree.

Red Halibut · Post by **Red Halibut** » 2007-09-20 09:47

Solution 1: Don't land. Just hover very close to the ground.

Solution 2: Read This: http://www.dynamicflight.com/flight_maneuvers/slopes/

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2007-09-20 10:09

And bingo was his nameo!

Red Halibut · Post by **Red Halibut** » 2007-09-20 10:23

That site I quoted is an excellent general flight reference, particularly for rotary wing aircraft. Here's a good explanation of dynamic rollover.

http://www.dynamicflight.com/aerodynamics/dynamic_roll/

[SAF]stal20048 · Post by **[SAF]stal20048** » 2007-09-20 14:59

unrecoverable dive, where it pitches forward, and you're flying half upside down, nose to the ground, and you just go straight down and can't pull up.

its called stalling (nothing to do with my name BTW

)

if anything though, just decrease sensitivity on the roll (left to right) axis, so we dont do the flippy thingy when we try to land all the time.

landing the helicopter is too easy in my opinion, and you can always decrease your own sensitivity settings.

Nice informative post however, well done

thanks, pete