Militia Pilot -- Give him a use in the future?

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-10-18 08:16

Militia gets a pilot kit for some reason. I was wondering if in a future (urban?) militia map, they could get something like a common civilian-market chopper, like the Bell something-or-another? Something either weaponless, or with some retrofitted light weapons; or maybe even a "common" military scout chopper? It could be used for recon of the map -- Militia, despite poor armament, is a "know what they're doing" faction.

CumFyKeyKeY · Post by **CumFyKeyKeY** » 2007-10-18 08:32

last time i checked insurgents didnt have an air force

ALPHA-WOLF · Post by **ALPHA-WOLF** » 2007-10-18 08:59

CumFyKeyKeY wrote:last time i checked insurgents didnt have an air force

Last time I checked there wasn't a Mec
I'm sure he said Militia (I reckon you would find someone in Militia who could fly a light air craft) give um a Cessna or something

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-10-18 10:42

CumFyKeyKeY wrote:last time i checked insurgents didnt have an air force

He said MILITIA, where did you read Insurgents here?

WNxLT7 · Post by **WNxLT7** » 2007-10-18 12:06

The devs have already portrayed the militia as rebels so there's no point in giving them a heli. we wouldn't want them to have an advantage over the brits would we? -.-

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-10-18 13:00

The Chechen rebels of which are depicted in the 1 map they are in at the moment are commonly referred to as insurgents. An insurgency is an armed political uprising against some form of authority, doesn't have anything to do with how well equipped or what tactics the insurgents may use.

Anyway I'm sure helis of some form or other arn't out of the question. For some reason or other the Russians seem to like selling arms to the Chechens for them to use to shoot at them (well that's what I've read doing my essay on the Chechen wars but I haven't done nearly enough research yet), so perhaps something Soviet may be in order. Plus there'll be countless civilian aircraft the militia can get a hold of as grunt said that they could graft whatever onto.

The only reason factions like this survive is cos they innovate. For example in the Indochina war the Vietnamese and Laotian rebels carted AA guns, amongst other heavy arse equipment, in from CHINA by HAND. The village militia, I think that's what they were called at least, would strip big items down by hand and cart them in hundreds of pieces across valleys, and people from the next village would take them across the next etc. Just one example of how far insurgent groups will go to kick people out their country.

Waaah_Wah · Post by **Waaah_Wah** » 2007-10-18 13:19

A littlebird (or something similar) would be great for militia

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-10-18 13:22

I'd prefer a civvy craft given the full on A-team treatment to be honest.

Warmagi · Post by **Warmagi** » 2007-10-18 15:23

cesna or a bublle chopper, or both, but civilian, no armament. IMHO

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2007-10-18 15:45

I think Militia shouldn't have any aircraft,doesn't really make sense...

[SAF]stal20048 · Post by **[SAF]stal20048** » 2007-10-18 15:59

agentscar wrote:I think Militia shouldn't have any aircraft,doesn't really make sense...

why not? They are after all human beings with a wealth of money support, im sure theres a militia faction that used/uses light helicopters for quick transport and things, which is one of the main aspects of why guerrilla fighting was so effective against the slow lumbering armies of the past.

I suppose it doesn't serve any huge purposes except transport, with the mod as it is at the moment, but with more emphasis on scout chopper tactics it would prove a very nice asset for militia, and good for balancing out maps as well..

my two pence

thanks, pete

Ragni<RangersPL> · Post by **Ragni<RangersPL>** » 2007-10-18 16:08

Generaly I don't think that Militia should have any aircrafts. Operation and maintenance costs of an aircraft are high and Militia looks very poor beacuse they use cheap and old weapons (in my opinion).
...but if there will be, then I suggest Mi-2 Hoplite for transport and reconnaissance.

Alex6714 · Post by **Alex6714** » 2007-10-18 17:02

Give them a piper cub, then I can go play flight sim with a battle below me.

ZaZZo · Post by **ZaZZo** » 2007-10-18 17:11

I think it would be realistic enough in an urban map to give them a civilian chopper.
Could just be a wee TV helicopter.

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-10-18 17:35

You have to bear in mind that Chechnya has oil, so if a militia was to take part of the northern territory of the area then they could use it to their advantage. Would cheap helicopters even cost that much compared to things like APCs and other military equipment?

Petey · Post by **Petey** » 2007-10-18 17:52

maybe a comanche...lol
or we can give them one of those news helos without the cameras...something civilians might use

Objurium · Post by **Objurium** » 2007-10-19 06:47

Problem solved.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-10-19 06:50

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-10-19 11:37

Yeah get some linked PKMs on it and the Brits won't have a chance!

Doc_Frank · Post by **Doc_Frank** » 2007-10-19 11:38

The standard MI-8 used in vanilla BF2 would be appropriate for the militia picted in the mod. Rebels and weapon dealers, why wouldn't they be able to maintain a transport helicopter?