Militia Pilot -- Give him a use in the future?

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-10-21 11:38

Heheheh. That's what we need! Right-wing conspiracy nutters Militia Vs U.S. Army. Be a good excuse to have a map in The USA. Not that I'm insinuating your state militia are some crazy new born Christian , prisonplanet.com reading lunatics Grunt...

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2007-10-21 17:51

militia in the U.S. that's like saying Ins. in the u.s......

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2007-10-21 19:05

agentscar wrote:militia in the U.S. that's like saying Ins. in the u.s......

whats wrong with having a militia, i am a member of a militia in my county.

but whats so wrong about giving them a chopper, maybe with a gun but a very weak gun.

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2007-10-21 21:32

It depends on what type of militia,what kind of militia are you in Eddiereyes909?

Is it like a terrorism cell/Black Market dealing militia,like in PR?

Is it like a Federal Defense Force?

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2007-10-21 21:44

agentscar wrote:It depends on what type of militia,what kind of militia are you in Eddiereyes909?

Is it like a terrorism cell/Black Market dealing militia,like in PR?

Is it like a Federal Defense Force?

We are an Unorganized Militia.

ok, well we aren't a militia we just have guns and will defend our country if we have to.

but it still counts as an unorganized Militia if i am correct

arjan · Post by **arjan** » 2007-10-22 08:35

give them a cessna with an uav scan
NO weapons

Reddish Red · Post by **Reddish Red** » 2007-10-22 17:23

arjan wrote:give them a cessna with an uav scan
NO weapons

Why would a Cessna have a UAV scan.

Anyway, The only weapons would be Grenade Dropping

Superior Mind · Post by **Superior Mind** » 2007-10-22 18:16

Reddish Red wrote:Why would a Cessna have a UAV scan.

Anyway, The only weapons would be Grenade Dropping

I think a RPK-74 stuck out the side window is plausible.

arthuro12 · Post by **arthuro12** » 2007-10-22 18:20

yes but then the opposing alied force shouldnt have any AA or airvehicles or the militia would be like a frikkin sign with ''SHOOT ME B*TCH''.. like... make it a small bell chopper with like 4 seats... but no weapons...

Doc_Frank · Post by **Doc_Frank** » 2007-10-24 11:41

HughJass wrote:also i heard militia is getting hind. and these guys are probably some war veterans or something so one of them should know how to pilot.

Awesome! Honestly, I didn't even dare to come up with the implementation of the Hind for the militia after the previous suggestions. But that would be just as good as the MI-8.

A beautiful piece of hardware too!

Edit: My point of view is that these guys are ex-military "businessmen" or radicals, who have connections and access to their - mostly - communist equimpent. That's why I wondered about the reason of existence for their "quite a bit" oldschool weapons like the Shpagin and the SKS. There are a lot of modified AK models, why not pick one of those?

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-10-24 16:13

agentscar wrote:militia in the U.S. that's like saying Ins. in the u.s......

Yeah, you never heard of some of the mentalist militia groups that exist in the U.S., like the one that bombed that federal building I forget the name of, Timothy McVey (however it's spelt) had summet to do with it... or not depending on how you wanna look at it.

But yeah give em all some helis already!

TF6049 · Post by **TF6049** » 2007-10-25 06:14

R/C jets as bombs?

Or Cessna's as spotter planes/suicide bombs?

Doc_Frank · Post by **Doc_Frank** » 2007-10-25 08:08

TF6049 wrote:R/C jets as bombs?

Or Cessna's as spotter planes/suicide bombs?

R/C "jets"? we're trying to find a use for the militia's pilot kit.
Cessna? It's been mentioned on the previous page... and before that too.

If you give the militia a plane, that means they have access to an airfield, which I think comes with quite an authority over that area. So they might just have a helicopter with that too. And if they would be able to afford a Cessna they DEFINATELY wouldn't use it for suicide (that's for deranged immature kids as practice shows anyway).

We're still not sure about the exact role of the militia, so I suppose some developer feedback could be helpful.

Agian, I think these guys are semi-professional, and if their goals can find a "sponsor" against other powers, an old rollout military transport heli as the Mi-8 would be affordable and most useful for them - not just in the battle. Or a Hind as non plus ultra. Just take a look at the free-militias of the late Yugoslavia: after their army has fallen to pieces, radical groups tried to salvage as much as they could with influence and contacts.

LeggyStarlitz · Post by **LeggyStarlitz** » 2007-10-25 09:20

I don't think aircraft for milita is at all out of the question. All it takes is a load of money and you can buy anything you want. Just look at the Columbian Drug cartels. They almost got away with buying a Russian submarine with crew included.

Not to mention the countless aircraft they own to transport drugs into Mexico.

Anyone including you could go out and buy a MIG-21.

Having Milita that are backed by drug money is a very real world scenario.

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-10-25 11:49

Guerilla_Frank wrote:R/C "jets"? we're trying to find a use for the militia's pilot kit.
Cessna? It's been mentioned on the previous page... and before that too.

If you give the militia a plane, that means they have access to an airfield, which I think comes with quite an authority over that area. So they might just have a helicopter with that too. And if they would be able to afford a Cessna they DEFINATELY wouldn't use it for suicide (that's for deranged immature kids as practice shows anyway).

We're still not sure about the exact role of the militia, so I suppose some developer feedback could be helpful.

Agian, I think these guys are semi-professional, and if their goals can find a "sponsor" against other powers, an old rollout military transport heli as the Mi-8 would be affordable and most useful for them - not just in the battle. Or a Hind as non plus ultra. Just take a look at the free-militias of the late Yugoslavia: after their army has fallen to pieces, radical groups tried to salvage as much as they could with influence and contacts.

Militias have had "authority" in many instances. Where do you think the Peoples Republic of China came from for example? Not sure if they ever had aircraft but they managed to take over China. The Zapitista have controlled south west Mexico for a fairly long time as another example.

As was mentioned on the previous page, there ARE militias with jets. A way of balancing this may be to have really crappy CAS jet(s) on the militia side with a few crappy pieces of armour and AA and plenty of armour on the other.

Doc_Frank · Post by **Doc_Frank** » 2007-10-25 12:52

AnRK wrote:Militias have had "authority" in many instances. Where do you think the Peoples Republic of China came from for example? Not sure if they ever had aircraft but they managed to take over China. The Zapitista have controlled south west Mexico for a fairly long time as another example.

As was mentioned on the previous page, there ARE militias with jets. A way of balancing this may be to have really crappy CAS jet(s) on the militia side with a few crappy pieces of armour and AA and plenty of armour on the other.

Erm...

could you please point me out the text part where I wrote militia shouldn't get a plane or a jet? And the part where I wrote militias never had strong authority over a specific area?

I think you missed my point: a helicopter is easier to maintian and to manoeuvre (vertical L/T -> reaching isolated places), thus they should be prior to aircrafts in an organization that is picted in PR. IMO we have to think in "Slavic" solutions for the militia, if the DEVs chose them to speak Russian.

BobAndy · Post by **BobAndy** » 2007-10-26 02:40

How much is the Mi-8 Hip worth these days?

...About the same as a busted *** brdm-2 eh?

A small, compact, lightweight plane such as the L-5 Sentinel (or similar) (salvaged from the phillipine air force?) would be a working 'piece of ****' suitable for something they might want / be able to afford. A pilot and a spotter, exactly what it was suited for.

Besides that, it'd be unbelievably easy to maintain; same as the piper cub. (made of off-the-forest-floor materials...)

Could be plausible...

BobAndy · Post by **BobAndy** » 2007-10-26 02:43

Guerilla_Frank wrote:Erm... could you please point me out the text part where I wrote militia shouldn't get a plane or a jet? And the part where I wrote militias never had strong authority over a specific area?

I think you missed my point: a helicopter is easier to maintian and to manoeuvre (vertical L/T -> reaching isolated places), thus they should be prior to aircrafts in an organization that is picted in PR. IMO we have to think in "Slavic" solutions for the militia, if the DEVs chose them to speak Russian.

I love your signature btw.

The MI-24 is a heli kickass combat vehicle...

Doc_Frank · Post by **Doc_Frank** » 2007-10-26 09:13

BobAndy wrote:I love your signature btw.

The MI-24 is a heli kickass combat vehicle...

Cheers mate!

A half minute of Google legwork resulted in this link. Two twenty-years-old spacious helicopters for reasonable price. I figure the blackmarket has a lot more competitive prices. Let's say 150k bucks (and I might be very generous with this price) for a fairly equipped rusty transport heli with mounted MMGs. Deal of the year for them.

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-10-26 11:26

Guerilla_Frank wrote:Erm... could you please point me out the text part where I wrote militia shouldn't get a plane or a jet? And the part where I wrote militias never had strong authority over a specific area?

I think you missed my point: a helicopter is easier to maintian and to manoeuvre (vertical L/T -> reaching isolated places), thus they should be prior to aircrafts in an organization that is picted in PR. IMO we have to think in "Slavic" solutions for the militia, if the DEVs chose them to speak Russian.

Ooops, sorry bout that, must have missed a word or two...