Sea Hawk

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-09 16:18

Can someone please replace the Carier stationed Black Hawks with a sea hawk as it would be more realistic and easier to land.

JellyBelly · Post by **JellyBelly** » 2006-01-09 16:21

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-09 16:45

Yeah thats the one

Alengine · Post by **Alengine** » 2006-01-09 21:17

ok....
I cant see the difference except the color?

Dethleffs · Post by **Dethleffs** » 2006-01-09 21:23

so why exactly is it easier to land?

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-01-09 21:48

There are a few key differences, the bird in BF2 is more of a hybrid of the two I believe. But I am wondering what would make one easier to land than the other?

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2006-01-09 22:14

Yea i dont see where the landing is a factor, i believe the seahawk is slightly smaller, it appears that way. But the only real differences are in the equipment its designed to cary, tropedos, sonar type stuff etc.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-01-09 23:45

There are some of the key differences I knew where there, just not specifically

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Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-01-10 08:17

the tail wheel has been moved from the end of the tail boom to the rear of the fusalage so it is easier to sand on carriers also sea hawks are armed with an asortment of anti ship missiles and arms the landing gear setup also alows landing on tight spaces like roof's

[BiM]Black7 · Post by **[BiM]Black7** » 2006-01-10 09:29

aha i see your point..

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-01-10 12:39

The USMC Marines Use the Black Hawk, there is no need to put the Sea Hawk in BF2.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-01-10 19:01

Hitperson wrote:the tail wheel has been moved from the end of the tail boom to the rear of the fusalage so it is easier to sand on carriers also sea hawks are armed with an asortment of anti ship missiles and arms the landing gear setup also alows landing on tight spaces like roof's

Easier landing on carriers, maybe, but easier landing on destroyers, cruisers and frigates, certainly. It also is forward so that the tail boom can fold for easier storage on the flight deck and in the hangar deck.

All of the upgraded Seahawks are also capable of using Hellfire missiles for ground attack as well as anti-surface warfare.

The Seahawk in-game is allegedly an HH-60H Seahawk, which is not operated by the Marines, and bears only a superficial resemblance to the actual aircraft. The actual HH-60H is the US Navy's CSAR and special warfare (i.e. SEAL) support helicopter, capable of carrying Hellfire missiles for surface/ground attack, but it cannot carry the ESSS "stub wings" shown on EAs "Seahawk."

Rhino wrote:The USMC Marines Use the Black Hawk, there is no need to put the Sea Hawk in BF2.

Yes and no. The USMC does not operate the Blackhawk or Seahawk in the utility helicopter role. The only Blackhawks in their inventory are the VH-60Ns used for what is known as "Special Air Mission," or executive transport (the President and others). See photo below:

However, the Marines do get transported by the helicopters of other services, including US Army Blackhawks, USAF Pavehawks and US Navy Seahawks when the situation calls for it, as it did in Monrovia, Liberia a while back. The photo is USMC FAST Company Marines being transported by USAF Pavehawk.

There may be quite a bit of interservice rivalry and pool-pissing, but each service is there to help the other when required since they're on the same team. Except perhaps at the service academy sporting events.

JellyBelly · Post by **JellyBelly** » 2006-01-10 19:05

Marines still use the most current versions of the UH-1, the CH-53D Sea Stallion and CH-46 Sea Knight.

Images Respectivley.

I think the V-22 will start to phase some if not all of these out though.

As Eddie said. The USMC doesn't operate the BlackHawk Helo series. They just catch lifts on USAF ones.

Owl · Post by **Owl** » 2006-01-10 23:12

Yeah, it's the tail wheel that has been moved forward.
It's the same model as the Jayhawk S&R helicopter I believe

GRB · Post by **GRB** » 2006-01-11 00:03

I'de rather see the BH taken out and the UH-1Y added in for the USMC.

http://www.marines.com/page/usmc.jsp?pageId=/page/Detail-XML-Conversion.jsp?pageName=UH-1-Huey&flashRedirect=true

"Whatever the mission, the UH-1Y Huey is designed to support it."

Long Lived the Huey!!

Seriously though, if it boils down to what's realistic and what's not. The USMC uses the UH-1Y more than any of their other helicopters.

That and the CH-46 Sea Knight as well as the CH-53D Sea Stallion. (as mentioned above)

Noetheinner · Post by **Noetheinner** » 2006-01-11 01:12

the Huey is the L33TS@UC3! And this has been discussed to death, I think you guys are putting it in!

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-01-11 23:59

The V-22 will be phasing out the CH-46E Sea Knights (aka "Frogs") and CH-53D Sea Stallion medium lift helicopters in the Marine Corps if it passes its operational evaluation aboard the USS Bataan. Their heavy lift component will remain the territory of the CH-53E Super Stallion.

The UH-1Y is not yet in service, either, so not sure about including it in the mod. The UH-1N would be more likely to be included as the utility helicopter on maps where the USMC is represented.