shotguns

nedlands1 · Post by **nedlands1** » 2007-10-27 14:46

Hawk_345 wrote:You should not have to have 2 shots when you are that close. thats my point.

I believe it is one shot if you get all the pellets to hit and you are close enough to have the "distance to minimum damage" modifier not have too much of an effect. Two shots to be sure or one shot to kill them and another when they are down to gloat.

Hawk_345 · Post by **Hawk_345** » 2007-10-27 14:50

I dont know, ive shot someone directly before and got 1 shot kill, but other times it took 2 shots, unless i misjudged something.

nedlands1 · Post by **nedlands1** » 2007-10-27 14:59

Hawk_345 wrote:I dont know, ive shot someone directly before and got 1 shot kill, but other times it took 2 shots, unless i misjudged something.

Shot a pesky spec-ops(no body armor)?

G.Drew · Post by **G.Drew** » 2007-10-27 15:16

probably the guy wasnt at full health

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-10-27 15:30

I did get one shot kills with the shotgun on OGT, but that's probably because one of the buckshots went in their face

Doc_Frank · Post by **Doc_Frank** » 2007-10-27 15:31

Four shots to kill seems unlikely to me too, must have been some non-vital point. The day before I was training with the Saiga on Op Phoenix, being a loner SL for building purposes. I could kick into the ball at the Construction Site only, when I managed to stalk somebody I unloaded at least three buckshots, then ran to cover.

When I tried a longer one to wound somebody it had about no effect at all. Not realistic at all either.

Objurium · Post by **Objurium** » 2007-10-28 04:55

As was said before, the spread is really bad. The M11-87 might be better if the rate of fire was tweaked though. you can fire a shotgun accurately ALOT faster than that. (Had some fun on the range today with a friend's new 870.)

nedlands1 · Post by **nedlands1** » 2007-10-28 05:46

Objurium wrote:As was said before, the spread is really bad. The M11-87 might be better if the rate of fire was tweaked though. you can fire a shotgun accurately ALOT faster than that. (Had some fun on the range today with a friend's new 870.)

Does a metre sized spread sound about right at 30-40m?

Soulja · Post by **Soulja** » 2007-10-28 13:25

Shotguns do need a tweak of some kind, especially the pump ones, maybe rate of fire. But the truth is if you made a 12 gauge shotgun actually realistic it would be extremely overpowered because it only spreads about a yard over 50 ft.

Hides-His-Eyes · Post by **Hides-His-Eyes** » 2007-10-30 00:09

Soulja wrote:Shotguns do need a tweak of some kind, especially the pump ones, maybe rate of fire. But the truth is if you made a 12 gauge shotgun actually realistic it would be extremely overpowered because it only spreads about a yard over 50 ft.

By PR standards this is extremely close range, except in urban environments. Most firefights I encounter are at a range of around ~100m, minimum with ones with acogs getting to several times that sometimes.

Sgt_Canadian_Floss · Post by **Sgt_Canadian_Floss** » 2007-10-30 02:19

We should get someone to wear a body armor, get a DEV to watch it, and shoot the guy in the armor about 5 times and see what happens.

ryan d ale · Post by **ryan d ale** » 2007-10-30 03:00

Trench brooms are general purpose weapons.

Doc_Frank · Post by **Doc_Frank** » 2007-10-30 09:23

Sgt_Canadian_Floss wrote:We should get someone to wear a body armor, get a DEV to watch it, and shoot the guy in the armor about 5 times and see what happens.

I volunteer for a barrel of beer!

markonymous · Post by **markonymous** » 2007-10-30 20:46

i think they should add iron sights to the shotguns cus it looks retarded when u zoom in with it and the crosshair turns up.

Hawk_345 · Post by **Hawk_345** » 2007-10-30 21:59

yeah, ironsights would be a nice touch, but today i tried the slug for some longer range shooting and its actually prety good, 5 kills and relatively long range, i should start using that rather than buckshot in close range to.

it must have been funny for the brit i was shooting at, he almost getting killed then getting killed so far away from me with a shotgun.

Alex6714 · Post by **Alex6714** » 2007-10-31 00:57

Shotguns are lethal. Especially the British one.

Just have to use them differently... You aren´t going to be sniping with them.

As for range, I have shot people from the roof on street to the other side. So it does work.

nedlands1 · Post by **nedlands1** » 2007-10-31 01:31

Shotguns tend to lose their effectiveness if the opposition insta-prones when they see you. They present a way smaller target for your buckshot to hit.

Teek · Post by **Teek** » 2007-10-31 03:21

Its sad that a knife is much more effective than a shotgun. It you staked someone, and got 2 shot into him, he is able to turn around and kill you, damm, Its worse than Vanilla Bf2!

Warmagi · Post by **Warmagi** » 2007-10-31 11:01

Teek is right

I do not take engeneer with a shotgun willingly, if Im ordered to destroy somethin or place a mine, I'm doin it then Im begging my team to shoot someone and Im picking up his kit

There is no point shooting the shotgun even if u think u got perfect killing situation, its like "Hey guys, Easy prey here, I wont be even able to kill you, come and get me". It worse then VIP's colt (if anyone played SWAT 4)

Superior Mind · Post by **Superior Mind** » 2007-10-31 11:18

If the shotguns are made to have a tighter spread then I suggest using the wrenches cross hair (56) as the zoom sights rather than the standard shotgun one we use now (6) as a place holder for iron sights.