Afghan map base walls made of bags containing stones

MrD · Post by **MrD** » 2007-11-05 22:02

It struck me watching the Panorama program tonight on Grenadier Guards in Afghanistan that the walls of the firebases everywhere were made of tough bags that are filled with small stones.

Statics need to be made to represent this if we haven't got them, they are obvious everywhere in the bases,

DarkTalon · Post by **DarkTalon** » 2007-11-06 01:06

are you talking about HESCO barriers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesco_bastion

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2007-11-06 01:18

Sounds like you mean Hesco and Geocell barriers, MrD. They're not always small stones, they're filled with whatever the e-tool or backhoe digs up to fill them. They get shipped-in flat, then get unfolded and filled on-site.

MrD · Post by **MrD** » 2007-11-06 06:35

Good, we have proper identification! Then next step, statics!

My only experience with bases abroad has been the brick and concrete blank walls surrounding your bog standard african compounds. And the shocking array of AK's and rpg's stacked up against the outside of the armoury wall whilst the armourer smokes his weed before deciding to clean and log them back in!

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2007-11-06 06:38

MrD, there is already Hesco barriers ingame, 4 different kinds, Single Layer, Triple Layer, Singlelayer with wire, triple layer with Wire

MrD · Post by **MrD** » 2007-11-06 06:56

Maybe they just look so uniform they lack the right feel

RHYS4190 · Post by **RHYS4190** » 2007-11-07 06:52

sand bags filled with stones that crasy it unsafe if bag get blown up you have thousends of stones flying around at high speed hurting every one.

TexLax · Post by **TexLax** » 2007-11-07 07:41

RHYS4190 wrote:sand bags filled with stones that crasy it unsafe if bag get blown up you have thousends of stones flying around at high speed hurting every one.

it's not actually, it's designed to take side impacts (so it will stop shrapnel/warheads) though the should be destructable if you hit them with an RPG multiple times...

Post by **Dunehunter** » 2007-11-07 09:32

Aren't those the things around the VCP on Basrah, or am I mistaken?

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-11-07 09:33

Yes, they are and also around the air bases on Kashan...

MrD · Post by **MrD** » 2007-11-07 16:38

They just look too uniform and unrecognisable really. Like the difference between a cube and a boulder

DarkTalon · Post by **DarkTalon** » 2007-11-07 23:59

I think the mappers have a "thing" for hedco barriers, they're on almost every map.

l|Bubba|l · Post by **l|Bubba|l** » 2007-11-08 00:24

Wiki: Gabion

WNxKenwayy · Post by **WNxKenwayy** » 2007-11-08 04:43

Its HESCO not HEDCO hell they say as much on them

They are also expensive as hell IRL, or so I've heard. And they are boring to look at but they work wonders and can be filled by front end loaders which means no sandbags which means no sandbag details which = omgwtfwin.