new weapons

Fatal1ty · Post by **Fatal1ty** » 2007-12-26 14:41

good to see the laupa on the UK team, nice weapon, however, i wouldn't mind seeing some more british sniper rifles, i know there is the M95, which actually looks more like an M107, but how about the introduction of the AW, or even the AS.50, both great sniper rifles, and quite surpising bearing in mind the AS 50 is used by Navy SEALs and SOCOM as well as UKSF

and whats the possibility of a british skinned minimi instead of the SAW??

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2007-12-26 15:09

More sniper rifles that offer less mobility would only serve to further reduce the capabilities and usefulness of the sniper class.

I do think there is a high chance of getting a minimi skin though. That would be quite sweet. Barring new weapons, I think that it is probably quite high on the list.

Viper5 · Post by **Viper5** » 2007-12-26 15:43

What is the difference between the M249 and the Minimi? AFAIK its small aesthetic changes. Time is better used elsewhere. As for .50 Cal Snipers, they're being removed in .7

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-12-26 16:37

SWEET! No more M95 / M82 whining.

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-12-26 17:03

New british sniper rifles are not on the horizon. Minimi would be nice actually

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2007-12-26 18:08

Viper5 wrote:What is the difference between the M249 and the Minimi? AFAIK its small aesthetic changes. Time is better used elsewhere. As for .50 Cal Snipers, they're being removed in .7

Well the version of the minimi in widest use with the British Army, Royal Marines and RAF regiment, the Para (under the designation L110A1) has a shorter barrel and folding stock (though the Mk.1 style minimi is also L-classified as the L108A1, though it is not in as wide use).

Fatal1ty · Post by **Fatal1ty** » 2007-12-26 18:29

i know its only small aesthetics, but they can make all the difference, especially if it had the SUSAT mounted on top, then it would be a great add.

KP · Post by KP » 2007-12-26 19:20

Minimi > M249. This thread can now be locked.

Thunderchunk · Post by **Thunderchunk** » 2007-12-26 21:34

i know its only small aesthetics, but they can make all the difference, especially if it had the SUSAT mounted on top, then it would be a great add.

Susats were getting ditched quite a lot in-theatre on our LMGs as it took too long to get in a good firing postion. Plus you then also have un-balancing issues.

Darkpowder · Post by **Darkpowder** » 2007-12-26 21:54

Personally i would prefer to see the GPMG as an infantry weapon instead of the SAW, i'm sure the GPMG is in more widespread use than the Minimi?

Post by **Mongolian_dude** » 2007-12-26 22:00

[R-DEV]Jaymz wrote:New british sniper rifles are not on the horizon. Minimi would be nice actually

Amen

...mongol...

Soulja · Post by **Soulja** » 2007-12-26 22:13

Last thing we need is more sniper especially .50 ones because they are unrealistic as it is. The M82 and M95 are deployed as specialty weapons in real warfare. They're not going to be carried by snipers in a battlezone, they are expensive to shoot, very heavy, and are just overkill generally. A M40 or R700P is what would be carried because of the lighter weight and they are much more stable.

Thunderchunk · Post by **Thunderchunk** » 2007-12-26 22:36

Personally i would prefer to see the GPMG as an infantry weapon instead of the SAW, i'm sure the GPMG is in more widespread use than the Minimi?

Not quite... this is the standard orbat we used for a section, i worked with the Marines at the start of my tour for a couple of weeks and they also had the same. The GPMG and LMGs took priority so when one of them was hit or went on r&r a rifleman stepped up. This shows 6 men, when the platoons cut down to having 2 sections in a platoon the sections would have 8 men. Just add a rifleman to each fireteam.

Charlie F/T
Section Commander - SA80
LSW Gunner
Rifleman W/ UGL

Delta F/T
Section 2 i/c - SA80 W/UGL
LMG unner
GPMG Gunner

Fatal1ty · Post by **Fatal1ty** » 2007-12-27 00:11

thanks for the wisdom thunder, how were ops??

im not surprised the GP and LMG had priority, they are both pretty sweet weapons, or so my bootneck brother tells me hehe

TayloR016 · Post by **TayloR016** » 2007-12-27 00:43

Well on the guide it does state that the minimi will be made in a future release and the m249 is just a placeholder so we will get it.. hopefully.

charliegrs · Post by **charliegrs** » 2007-12-27 01:38

i dont think you can just skin a m249 to make it look like a minimi, because theyre are the aforementioned physical differences, so it would take a new model i believe, right?

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2007-12-27 02:00

the Javelin? woooah nice to see the Javelin on Kashanor terrorist whitout experience using it :/

Sadist_Cain · Post by **Sadist_Cain** » 2007-12-27 02:47

I thought this was interesting...

M249 Variant Summary Table

Designation Description

XM249 ---- 5.56x45mm FN MINIMI machine gun; SAW candidate

XM249E1 ---- XM249 variant; w/ 1:7-inch rifling

XM249E2/M249 ---- XM249E1 variant; 5.56x45mm NATO FN MINIMI machine gun
variant w/ Product Improvement Program (PIP) kit improvements, including the heat shield

M249E3 ---- 5.56x45mm NATO FN MINIMI Para machine gun variant; longer barrel

M249E4 ---- 5.56x45mm NATO FN MINIMI SPW machine gun; also incorporating PIP kit improvements

Mk 46 Mod 0 ---- 5.56x45mm NATO FN MINIMI SPW/M249E4 machine gun variant; fixed buttstock and improved rail handguard.

Mk 46 Mod 1 ---- 5.56x45mm NATO FN MINIMI SPW/M249E4 machine gun variant; fixed buttstock, an improved rail handguard and has a 200 round box magazine. Currently in service with certain USSOCOM units.

Sorry if its a lil hard to read, cut n paste job

nedlands1 · Post by **nedlands1** » 2007-12-27 02:53

Sadist_Cain wrote:M249E3 ---- 5.56x45mm NATO FN MINIMI Para machine gun variant; longer barrel

Err, isn't the Para version with the short barrel?

Heskey · Post by **Heskey** » 2007-12-27 03:02

Am I dreaming things, or on some maps does the British have it's own black/green style Support class machine gun, and on others have the US M249 SAW?

Or am I just imagining things, and ALWAYS have the M249?