wepon class idea

worst 3 · Post by **worst 3** » 2005-11-10 00:00

just and crazy idea

I don’t know if this is realistic or not but it be cool to have. it just a thought but make the soldier more customizeablity, give the soldier x number of "slots" to fill with like a main gun, class, c4 ECT, have slots that go down in size, so a rifle is 7 smg 4 slots and a nade takes up 1 also 2clips of admonition takes up 1. you can give the person some customumization.

also give the player some money to start with to buy what he wants at the beginning of the game and if he doing good he can get a little more cash for better equipment. Don’t know about that idea

don’t know if it is a good idea or not but I think if be cool. don’t know if it could be implemented or not so not so I did not put it in suggestions.

Ex you get 27 slots and $10,000 to start

so I get a beret sniper with takes up (8 slots $7,000)
8 clips of amo (3 slots $75x3)
2 nades (2 slots $50x2)
1 clay (1 slot $150)
1 c4 (2 slots $100)
pistol 2 slots + 3 clips (3 slots $500)

also armor or gillie suit take up like 5 slots
and you would sprint longer with slots open.

Rocket luncher 8 slots 4 slots for additional rockets. $5000 rockets $1000

rearming free or cheep

so 18 slots used and about $8000.

He can run fast not may slots used

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-11-10 00:11

??: kinda CSish, dont get me wrong CS is fun but i dont think bringing cash into this is that great. i like the customization idea though i think its been deemed impossible.

Brentos · Post by **Brentos** » 2005-11-10 00:21

Too CSish.

DAWG · Post by **DAWG** » 2005-11-10 00:21

I can see the logic in your suggestion, only problem is it's like sending the troops to ammunation before they go to war, here is $10000 soldier don't get excited and don't spend it all in the one place. If you remove the money aspect and give each trooper a certain number of slots it may work. However care would have to be taken, so that it was impossible to come up with and ubber soldier, remember BF:V vanilla. Man the original M60 and accompanying kit was awesome, super accurate machine gun and anti armor capabilities.

Not sure if here is the place, but what do people think of deployable AT weapons, rather than giving AT men the kit they have now, instead remove all the static AT weapons from maps and give the ability to deploy this unit for AT soldiers. At first it may sound ubber, unlimited ammo and all, however it would work like the mortars use to. It takes a few seconds to deploy then you have to man it taking another second or so, it means that deploying quickly is not possible so no whipping out the tank buster firing and bolting for cover, players would have to consider where they set up armor defenses. One of the other classes could be outfitted with smaller munitions, for bunker clearance and light vehicles. This would put players in a position to actualy have to stay at a flag if they want to take down armor or find suitable points to ambush units, tanks would command the open ground because no one is running around switching to AT randomly as needed, however a position would need infantry support when attacking as the tanks would be more at risk from the fixed emplacements covering a flag area properly. At the moment some of those AT points are nuts, sitting in the open with no cover at all, which makes it very easy for armor to engage, sure they may get one shot on your tank, but as it stands you can whip round take out the position and anyone around it. It's no fun when you already know preciseley where your main threat is coming from and I do love to drive tanks, I just think it's too easy for us tankers to own the field, even with jets in the air.

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2005-11-10 00:53

Don't like the cs style. I say this, for at least the US. If we could get the 'unlocks' modified and free, then we could have 2 variations on each class as well

STA Sniper/Rifleman (M24/sopmodm14)
Grenadier (Maybe swap kit would be m4 and mortar)
Rifleman (switch between 4 nades and one AT4)
Corpsman (one specializes in stopping bleeding / other specializes in brining back to consicousness)
Auto-Rifleman (m249 / m60 or other m249 varient)
Combat Engineer (c4 vs mines)
Dedicated AT class, javelin ( one guy carries the deployable weapon, other guy carries a special ammo bag that is the only thing that can re arm the javelin)

my ideas.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-11-10 01:05

i like that though i think the two corpsman ideas should be combined.

Heydude235 · Post by **Heydude235** » 2005-11-10 03:12

i like the unlock able being unlocked. BUt heres my classes.

AT class - At-Mortar
Assualt - What is it now-and the medic weapon
Medic - Mp5 - Xm8 both with only 2 clips
Sniper - Same sniper - The unlockable sniper
Support - M249 SAW - M240 or the unlockable one
Engineer - Shotgun in game - Benelli M4
Sepc ops - Same gun - M4 Carbine

YOu like?

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-11-10 04:02

unlocks are being scrapped since IRL you dont unlock weapons.

as far as the weapons being used, there are plenty of military advisors on the PR team who probably know whats realistic to have, so i think we should trust them.

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2005-11-10 04:04

i'd stick with mine, because real combat engineers use m4s or m16s generaly, and 'spec ops' shouldnt be a class... you would have a map with say 'rangers vs insurgents' ,but not 'some normal forces + uberleet spec ops ranger class vs insurgents'

also, mp5 i dont think is widely used at all (by army or marines), xm8 has been cancelled too i think.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-11-10 04:09

correct though the MP5 could see action in a map with US navy SEALs or Force Recon Marines.

Beckwith · Post by **Beckwith** » 2005-11-10 05:16

XM8 is cancelled MP5 is used by marine security detachments primarily

worst 3 · Post by **worst 3** » 2006-02-01 00:07

thought: shouldnt the spec ops get more powerfull longer ranged guns. in real life they use higher powerd guns dont they. i think they should at least get the option.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-02-01 00:10

It looks as if the Spec Ops could be replaced in full version PR for a class that fits better into realism.

Xeno426 · Post by **Xeno426** » 2006-02-02 19:21

I'd love to see a system like what the UT mod INFILATRATION or the Half-Life mod FireArms had. Unfortunately, that's pretty much impossible with the mod tools that EA/DICE have currently released.

Martini · Post by **Martini** » 2006-02-02 19:46

Oh no,

I think the Spec Ops kit is great the way it is. The ability to sneak into enemy terretory and disable their arty and satcom systems is neat.

Love the M4, the C4, silenced pistol, how much better can it get? (if it can, and you plan on it, please show me!!)

And the special hat......what else can I say.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-02-02 20:01

Why dont the people on this forums finish their conversation and play the game - i found server with only 4 people! SEMI JOKE
Thank yu/ sorry

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-02-02 20:08

The problem with spec ops is that it isn't very realistic. The special forces of the US are not guys with M4s and silenced pistols and M4s. I agree it's a fun class to play but really it shouldn't be there.

Raptor · Post by **Raptor** » 2006-02-02 20:08

Good idea(s)... but here's my classes for the USMC (will add Chinese and MEC later)

Designated Marksman - Mk-12 Mod 0 SPR ; M40A3
Rifleman - M-16A4 (M-67 Grenades) ; M4A1 (M72 LAW)
Grenadier - M-16A4 (M203) ; M4A1 (M224 60mm Mortar)
Corpsman - M-16A4
Automatic Rifleman - M249 SAW ; M240 G
Combat Engineer - Benelli M1014 ; MP5K Navy
Anti-Tank - M136 AT4 (x2) ; Javelin (x1)
MEU-SOC - M4A1 SOPMOD ; MP5-SD5
Air Crew - Beretta M9 - Only Class that can Pilot/Gun in Aircraft
Armor Crew - M4A1 CQBR (Close Quarters Battle Reciever) - Only Class that can Drive/Gun in Tanks/APCs

Is there anyway to limit the amount of players that can be a specific class? Say like one designated marksman and one MEU-SOC out of every five or six players on the team.

Martini · Post by **Martini** » 2006-02-02 20:09

SOL man,

Its 3pm here, still at work. Good few hours before I get into the seat.

Good thing this forum is here or I would go nutz

Rifleman · Post by **Rifleman** » 2006-02-02 21:25

Raptor - my man, i like him ;] Lovely idea... i like ur choices...
How about silenced ar15 like in good old DC?

Make spec class all silenced.... with a bit worse accuracy for balance...

And about cash - i don't like it.... it is about war... not black market; ]