MEC vs Russian equiptment, no difference?

[=TC=]nuetron · Post by **[=TC=]nuetron** » 2008-01-02 23:16

WARNING, LONG SUGGESTION, PLEASE TAKE A NAP FORE-HAND SO YOU DONT FALL ASLEEP

A while ago I thought about it, and there would be no difference between the MEC and Russia's equiptment(other than the SU39)

MEC/Russia
T90
BRT90
Tunguska
UAZ
Vodnik
MiG29
SU25-vs-Russian SU39

But I have looked it up and I have found things that will make a bigger difference between their equiptment then an upgraded SU25, I have some suggestions that have been discussed before between DEVs as likley canadates for Russia, or havnt been suggested before and here they are

Obvious
SU-39 A skinned off the SU25 with a hump and improved canopy visability, with some slight tweaking of the manuverability

Shark in the water
Ka-50 Shark can be used on a map or two, from the mod
"Universal Soldiers of Russia",(google it, watch the vid) with no changes
the DEVs that reviewed it said they liked it as it was

You can run, but you can't HIND!
the HIND should be put in service beside the Mi-28 Havok, since Russia still has the HIND in service, and with its already small military dwindling, it would make use of the HINDs until it could have an entire fleet of Havoks ready, which will take some time

Upgrade, update, up!
the upgraded T-72, as i said before, Russia would make use of the Hind until it has all Havoks, but Russia can't afford ALL T90s, so it will upgrade T-72s to match the T90s comming online, they will have upgraded armor, speed and all around shiny new-ness that a new car has....without the smell

Meeting me half-way
Before I suggested that Russia(and chinese) have the SU-27 since Russia has a stock of them(and china bought some) But everybody was skeptical and didnt like it so, the SU-30 could be used since its in service, advanced, and a dev suggested it to be used rather than my idea of the POE2 SU27 ,and i quote "why would you use a whole new jet when you have a perfectly good SU30 ready?" true, and good point, so.........SU30

Armoring is caring
the BDRM for the Russians, its still used by Russia

so there are my suggestions, they would make the Russian military different from the MEC and more realistic since all of those mentioned are in service and made, or can be made without making a whole new render, just a skin, or tweaking.

BTW, good job on the 0.7 DEV team its awesome, i love the new laser guided systems, it requires team-work, good job, and thanks.

Dragonfire43560 · Post by **Dragonfire43560** » 2008-01-02 23:58

I agree it would be more realistic for them to have modernized T-72s. Also BMP-3s.

Post by **Pride** » 2008-01-03 00:03

Have you seen the russian forces community modding forum?

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/russia ... -f135.html

Post by **Tonnie** » 2008-01-03 00:04

bit of work but it would be good...

[=TC=]nuetron · Post by **[=TC=]nuetron** » 2008-01-03 00:09

with this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Air_Force

it shows that the HIND is still in service and will be until 2015, and as things are going, this war(fictional/non)will errupt between the west and the middle east well before 2015, and that means that Russia will have to help their allies in the middle east(MEC in-game) so that means that the HIND will be on the battlefield, until it is finally replaced in 2015.

also, just looked it up, and apparently no Russia air force squadrons have the SU-39, so there wont have to be any changes made for the Russia Ground attack jet(other then the camo which of course would have to be changed)

changes to make the suggestions in game

*SU-25* different camo
*Ka-50*request permission to use from USOR mod devs
*HIND* tweak weapons to match new attack heli guided missiles
*T-72* tweak armor to be upgraded,skin it(slightly different from Militias)
*SU-20* tweak weapons to make them match new weapons(LGM,LGB,ATOLL,AMRAAM)
*BDRM* skin itfor a differnet color(slightly, Militia 1 looks good)

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2008-01-03 00:19

Not to be repetitive, but

Have you seen the russian forces community modding forum?

Longbow* · Post by Longbow* » 2008-01-03 00:30

[=TC=]nuetron
Actually BRDM is a reconnaissance vehicle, not an APC. Russian APC is BTR-80.

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2008-01-03 00:32

For starters... your suggestion doesn't even border long. I've seen posts where it takes two sessions to read it all.

Anyhow, most of what you have suggested has been suggested. In fact, a lot of military hardware if not all has been suggested. I'm sure the devs and others would like to see a lot of that content ingame, but the problem is it takes time to model, skin, unwrap, code etc. all that. Granted, I'm sure the Russian Forces Community Project might create a lot of what you mentioned, whether the MEC receive the equipment as well is a mystery.

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2008-01-03 01:12

Hind - Suggested and going to be implemented.

Hokum - Suggested, not going to be implemented. Its only in use as an SF support helicopter. The Russian Tank killing gunship will be the Mi-28, while the general purpose "assault" gunship (ie having both attack and troop transport capabilities) will be the Hind.

T-72 - T-80. 'Nuff said.

BDRM - Will be a scout vehicle, filling a role not dissimilar to the vodnick/landy/humvee/nanjing.

Su30 - If there is to be a Russian Fighter Bomber I'm sure this will be considered. Having it as a 2 seat fighter is fairly redundant in PR as it is now, and only having 1 operator is unrealistic.

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