More US vs INS maps!

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2008-01-03 20:50

LtSoucy wrote:
Cant be done. Bot hare in servers as "Team 2". And no Team 2's or 1's can face each other.

Can be done... this issue was solved many, many moons ago. Any team can face any team now. There was a whole thread in the Russian Forces Community Mod forums about this, dig through it if you need proof.

Post by **Dr Rank** » 2008-01-03 20:58

I've made Operation Barracuda USMC vs PLA

The main reason for this is that the LB's are a lot more manoeuvrable. I also think the US are more likely to act in the way the senario for the map demands (i.e. the background to and reasons behind the assault).

Yes, Team 1 can now fight Team 1 etc.

I'm working on a new large scale USMC vs INS too, but this isn't sceduled for at least a couple of releases, got another large scale Brit map to come first

eddie · Post by **eddie** » 2008-01-03 22:16

LtSoucy wrote:Right but will be spread out to thin to cover a whole city

Not to take this off-topic, but the British are no longer responsible for overall security within Basrah now. Control has been handed over the the INA and INP. The British are there for training, mentoring, overwatch and support.

PM Brown addresses troops in Basrah.
Basrah handover

That is all.

darkNight · Post by **darkNight** » 2008-01-03 22:26

Exactly my words. Thanks LtSoucy!

We want more Insurgency maps including the USMC! I can understand why most of the maps are about Brits, finally nearly all DEVs are brits, but I would love to see more US fights in mid east terrain just like (at least hope so

) in the new coming map 'Al Fallujah'. There's absolutly no political background regarding the US movement in middle-east (Iraq) but it just would be great cause nothing is making a game more realistic than maps/fights that actually are happening and also are real.

Finally this mod is called Project Reality

bobfish · Post by **bobfish** » 2008-01-03 22:39

Not sure I would enjoy a USMC vs INS map, Basrah wasn't that fun as USMC compared to now as the Brits, I just find the weapons the Brits use to be better for CQB that occurs on that map.

From the reports of war and other operations, the US always came across as being heavy handed, using brute force in most of their operations, and the British as a more surgical force, trying to achieve an end with the least amount of fire power used. Probably because the US has far more to call into action, but I think the maps should reflect this too where possible.

And I want Helmand back.

Jarhead[NL] · Post by **Jarhead[NL]** » 2008-01-03 22:49

All i can say is:

Get rid of that stupid faction: China!

Just make maps that are fighted like in Iraq and Afghanistan.
THAT-IS-REALITY!

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-01-03 23:05

eddie wrote:Not to take this off-topic, but the British are no longer responsible for overall security within Basrah now. Control has been handed over the the INA and INP. The British are there for training, mentoring, overwatch and support.

PM Brown addresses troops in Basrah.
Basrah handover

That is all.

eddie!

@Jarhead: PR is not limited to real world events

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2008-01-03 23:14

Not sure I would enjoy a USMC vs INS map, Basrah wasn't that fun as USMC compared to now as the Brits, I just find the weapons the Brits use to be better for CQB that occurs on that map.

New gamemodes make maps better thas why you like it more.

H1satsu · Post by **H1satsu** » 2008-01-03 23:17

I have to say i enjoy Basrah alot and really enjoyed it even when 0.5 was out with the Americans in it. I guess it would seem abit stupid to do another Iraq style map with insurgency just for the purpose of including the US forces as it seems abit of a waste of time. But a big city map would be quite cool such as Baghdad. What some guy said earlier about the American way of fighting with overwhelming firepower could fit in by having tanks etc. I was really looking forward to Afghanistan map as the terrain would of been really cool by the sounds of things and was dissapointed when it was not included. Kashan and Basrah are my favourtie maps so i thought that Afghanistan map would of been a mix of both. Either way good job DEVS i wasn't sure about .7 at first with spawn points etc but it really is still really fun.

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2008-01-03 23:20

ya alot of fun. But i think we need more middle eastern maps for USMC. And lol Kashan and Al Basrah are my favorites too.

darkNight · Post by **darkNight** » 2008-01-04 11:02

Urban/Desert Middle-East for the win!!!

Nothing else is making as much fun as those maps..

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2008-01-04 11:38

ya i want Basrah with USMC with how the things are with the British. It would make it the same but just some better stuff.

eddie · Post by **eddie** » 2008-01-04 12:05

LtSoucy wrote:ya i want Basrah with USMC with how the things are with the British. It would make it the same but just some better stuff.

One would hope. But no amount of firepower will win the people over, especially those of a fanatical nature.

Post by **Pride** » 2008-01-04 15:16

7 Gates(GB vs PLA)
Al Basrah(GB vs INS)
Al Kufrah Oilfields(GB vs MEC)
Assault on Mestia(GB vs Militia)
Bi Ming(GB vs PLA)
Daqing Oilfields(USMC vs PLA)
EJod Desert(USMC vs MEC)
Fools Road(GB vs Militia)
Gulf of Oman(USMC vs MEC)
Hills of Hamgyong(USMC vs PLA)
Jabal Al-Burj(USMC vs MEC)
Kashan Desert(USMC vs MEC)
Operation Ghost Train(GB vs PLA)
Qwai River(USMC vs PLA)
Road to Kyongan'Ni(USMC vs PLA)
Sunset City(USMC vs PLA)
The Battle of Qinling(GB vs PLA)
Zatar Wetlands(USMC vs MEC)

Total maps:
8 British
8 USMC
9 PLA
6 MEC
1 INS
2 Militia

According to your own list, there are actually 10 US maps and only 8 british maps.

AL Basrah will probably not go to US just because US don't have an INS map and the americans want one. In RL it was the british that had control of the city and they remain nearby.

US currently have almost all the Middle east maps (Zatar, Oman, Kashan, Jabal, Ejod) where british have only 2.

You are getting Fallujah which is looking like an awesome map, and it will be INS, so you can't really ask for more INS maps just yet; especially when you will be getting the new Muttrah and Barracuda also

gazzthompson · Post by **gazzthompson** » 2008-01-04 17:57

LtSoucy wrote:ya i want Basrah with USMC with how the things are with the British. It would make it the same but just some better stuff.

no

Viper5 · Post by **Viper5** » 2008-01-04 19:41

gazzthompson wrote:no

Yes

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LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2008-01-04 19:53

Ok guys the British have taken over so many US maps the US are stuck with the cheap vBF2 maps. with the new maps more will go British. And all the good maps are going to the British. And i heard that Kashan was being removed once Muttrah got here. is taht true?

USMC_Cook · Post by **USMC_Cook** » 2008-01-04 21:06

Back to Fallujah! When is that map supposed to be released? I guess I could just search the forums.

fludblud · Post by **fludblud** » 2008-01-05 03:37

LtSoucy wrote:Ok guys the British have taken over so many US maps the US are stuck with the cheap vBF2 maps. with the new maps more will go British. And all the good maps are going to the British. And i heard that Kashan was being removed once Muttrah got here. is taht true?

nope, british are in british maps because those maps like basra reflect the theater of war the brits are currently in. just as how operation archer set in afghanistan is going to be for the canadian faction and fallujah being used by the USMC

why would they replace kashan with muttrah? they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

pasfreak · Post by **pasfreak** » 2008-01-05 03:49

yeah.
you can say "oh the brits and americans have the same amt. of maps, but in actual gameplay, pretty much only brit maps get played.
who plays zatar wetlands, hills of hamyong, daqing oil, etc.
I was on the other night and there were NO usmc maps

BTW, what happened to the us army? is that in the next .7 release?