M1A1 Abrams from USI

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2008-01-11 03:34

I know this has probably been suggested,but it needs to be addressed!

The DICE modeled M1A1 Abrams for the USMC is horrible.Comparing the PR made Challenger II,to the DICE M1A1 is....funny....The PR Challenger II looks realistic in size and everything.The DICE M1A1 is in-correct in size,big time.The tank is not long enough,and it's barrel is way to small.

The USI M1A1 is beautiful,it has the M240,and 50cal. Mounts on top,and it's correct in size all over.I was on Kashan today,and Jumped in an M1A1 Abrams with a squad-mate and while trying to get to the hatch,I looked at the tank,and kinda was just sickened/annoyed.

BTW:USMC Use M1A1 Abrams.

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2008-01-11 03:49

That is a very sexy model, no joke. I'm all for it.

TexLax · Post by **TexLax** » 2008-01-11 03:54

agentscar wrote:M1A1

we are using the M1A2 (and thats what dice modeled), and soon theres supposed to be an A3.

Crusader09 · Post by **Crusader09** » 2008-01-11 05:02

Marines use M1A1 if I recall.

An M1A3 will only come to the prototype stages when the military starts to get their priorities straight which will never happen. (They spend billions of dollars on new destroyers and aircraft carriers, yet they won't spend a penny to outfit a new rifle/carbine.)

ReaperMAC · Post by **ReaperMAC** » 2008-01-11 05:20

USI has a lot of great vehicle models. I wonder if most of the US Army will get their vehicles from that mod.

Silvarius2000 · Post by **Silvarius2000** » 2008-01-11 05:33

Crusader09 wrote:Marines use M1A1 if I recall.

An M1A3 will only come to the prototype stages when the military starts to get their priorities straight which will never happen. (They spend billions of dollars on new destroyers and aircraft carriers, yet they won't spend a penny to outfit a new rifle/carbine.)

Actually you are probably talking about the M1A2 SEP. Or the T.U.S.K Upgrade kit.

And the reason why they arent getting the new HK416 rifles and XM8 is because the technology gap isnt far enough to justify spending a lot of money on changing the national service rifle. Think the difference between an M1 carbine and the M16 rifle.

Ironcomatose · Post by **Ironcomatose** » 2008-01-11 05:41

Silvarius2000 wrote:Actually you are probably talking about the M1A2 SEP. Or the T.U.S.K Upgrade kit.

And the reason why they arent getting the new HK416 rifles and XM8 is because the technology gap isnt far enough to justify spending a lot of money on changing the national service rifle. Think the difference between an M1 carbine and the M16 rifle.

Off topic much??

Anyway yeah Marines still do use M1A1 in Iraq from many pictures i have seen. I heard they are getting the new A2s but for the sake of beauty and community satisfaction cant we just pretend that by the time PR is happening that the Marines are still using A1s?

Teek · Post by **Teek** » 2008-01-11 05:51

USMC maps don't really have tanks on them most of the time either. Op Barracuda (Amphibious assault), Muttra2 (amphib Assault), Fallujah (light vehicles only)

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2008-01-11 06:51

How can Fallujah West Have No Tanks?OMG?WHHHY?

But USMC currently use M1A1 and if they are upgrading to any M1A2 Variant,it's not common.Kashan Desert is very big USMC map,and we need tanks!

unrealalex · Post by **unrealalex** » 2008-01-11 07:18

damn they do have some awesome models...can PR borrow some of them? It's made by the same studio I dont get, why not combine the mods?

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2008-01-11 10:07

unrealalex wrote:damn they do have some awesome models...can PR borrow some of them? It's made by the same studio I dont get, why not combine the mods?

Black Sand Studious is all about cooperation between the participating mods. PR & USI have already exchanged content on many occasions (Things like the BRDM, T-55, A10, F16 etc. were made by the USI team I believe).

In any case, I imagine the devs don't see a great reason to add it. Besides some aesthetic modifications, and a mounted M240, you're not really seeing a big difference. Probably be best to start one in the community mod section if anyone has the skills and desire to do so.

Scarlet_Pimp · Post by **Scarlet_Pimp** » 2008-01-11 11:22

It can't do any harm to add it in the next verion, if its modeled and in game already. I can't see it being musch work, in the scale of compiling together the next version.

battlepepsi · Post by **battlepepsi** » 2008-01-11 11:31

i like turtles

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2008-01-11 16:50

That's very,very random Battlepepsi...

But Why Keep Using The Crappy DICE M1A1 Model?It's really,really an inaccurate model.The USI model is very accurate.

Post by **Pride** » 2008-01-11 17:02

I don't think you can just pick and choose things from other mods in BSS.

There is probably alot of discussion and haggling over these things, the PR Devs can't just rip everything from USI and put it in PR, otherwise the two mods might as well combine (which i don't think they wan't to)

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2008-01-11 18:12

Of course,but it seems that USI and PR work together well,so I don't see the big deal...

XxNinjaSinXx · Post by **XxNinjaSinXx** » 2008-01-11 20:42

Fallujah with no tank? That's not the Fallujah I heard in the news.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmidb92Hi-c[/youtube]

agentscar · Post by **agentscar** » 2008-01-11 21:35

EXACTLY XxNinjaSinXx !

And take note,that the M1A1's co-axil machinegun fires slightly slower than M1A2's.USI has this right.

Nice vid. BTW!

azn_chopsticks_boi · Post by **azn_chopsticks_boi** » 2008-01-11 22:34

unrealalex wrote:damn they do have some awesome models...can PR borrow some of them? It's made by the same studio I dont get, why not combine the mods?

beggars cant be choosers

there only a limit on how much u can get...even though the products r good and looks Fcuking amazing