1 missile kill

[VipersGhost]

Just from experience, looking at people flying, very few are successful at it to the point where they can have fun. I don't think flying should be made harder...I mean there are like what, 2 maps with planes, and more often than not nobody is flying...

Agreed...two hits is fine. Hell one is almost dead. Look at the Tank damage models.

[charliegrs]

dont forget the stealth fighter that was taken out by a sam in kosovo lol

[robbo]

I think the F117 Stealth Fight was taken out by AAA (Flak/Machinegun Anti Ait) not Missile Anti Air

[mammikoura]

I think the F117 Stealth Fight was taken out by AAA (Flak/Machinegun Anti Ait) not Missile Anti Air

pretty sure it was a missile. Not 100% sure though.

Anyway, as a lot of people have said aircraft can take a lot of damage. I'm guessing a lot of time some systems take damage when a missile damages the aircraft but you don't need every system working just to fly the plane.

Aircraft are extremely simple to fly, pretty much like driving a car. (and this I've heard from a pilot, civilian pilot though)So you could probably fly an aircraft with just a small percentage of the systems working. There is a huge amount of different systems on aircraft, some are more vital than others but basically as long as the engines, controls and wings are ok you should be able to fly the thing. (afaik)

[Symplify]

Jets are pretty complex bits of kit and I think the Typhoon runs off 22 computers.

It's actually 70, I think.

Usually the missiles are a 1 hit kill, or they at least put you on fire and kill the engine, so you must eject. Never been shot down in the F-16 so far, just lit up and forced to bail

So you could probably fly an aircraft with just a small percentage of the systems working. There is a huge amount of different systems on aircraft, some are more vital than others but basically as long as the engines, controls and wings are ok you should be able to fly the thing. (afaik)

Well, not on aircraft like the Eurofighter Typhoon and the F-35, those two are deliberately non-aerodynamic so they can pull extreme maneuvers, like cobras If you lose, say, an avionics system, have fun flying that jet.

I suppose u all heard the amazing story where the F15 either got hid or clipped (i dont rmbr) and he flew on one wing and managed to land like nothign happened. I swear, he had no wing on his right side, it was odd! But it gives u an idea that one missiles hit sometimes does the trick depending on where it hits, but ehh, not always.

I'm pretty sure that was an Israeli pilot who lost 3/4 of his (left?) wing, but managed to do a high-speed landing w/out knowing the extent of the damage. Saw the video, I think.

[Death_dx]

Yeah he still had a fair bit of his wing.

This is how you really fly with only one wing:
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/ ... ngWing.jpg

[Leo]

I'm fairly sure there was never a confirmed cobra done by a F-35, unless you mean the J-35.

[VipersGhost]

@ vipersghost:
No tests or models, just guessing. Not even a comparison of wing length to body width.

@ mammikoura & symplify:
I remember hearing a human could control a eurofighter for a few hundredths of a second before losing control because of instability of the plane.

lol eitherway physics lesson aside...the plane came out of spin, flew and landed saving the pilot and I assume most of the plane. No physics around those balls.

[BloodBane611]

For the record, the F15 is one of the only aircraft that is even vaguely capable of that. It has a very large body surface area, and uses this area as an extension of its wings. In more modern fighter like the Eurofighter and F-35 this is not even vaguely possible, especially given the fact that the loss of avionics equipment means the plane becomes uncontrollable.

Given the fact that the F-15 is not used in PR I would say this is a moot point.


And yes, the F-117 "Stealth" Fighter shot down over Bosnia was killed with an apparently "modified" SA-3 GOA. SOURCE

[zangoo]

well from what i remember when me and cas were testing 1 hit and you were going down, you could bail, but if you didnt your plane was going to blow up in about 5-10sec, not sure what changed in .7

[Hotrod525]

Modern Aircraft have many backup system, F16, F22, Typhoon, F35... Imagine depend on a unique system... that will be suicide lol

[Guerra]

Well, I think some planes are able to withstand damage, especially that F15.

I've seen an F15 at an Air show, and let me tell you, it was one of the most impressive jets I've ever seen in my life, the only jet I've ever been more impressed with is the F22 raptor that I saw in action at the Air Show at the CNE in Toronto last summer, which was VERY VERY impressive.

The F16 is a tiny jet and would get smoked by a missile (however, it's so quick and agile I doubt a missile would hit it). But a larger jet, like the F15 or the F22 could survive a hit (if in a non critical area), since they are both VERY large jets.

Seeing an F22 fly side by side with a WWII era fighter plane was one of the most hilarious things I'd ever seen, as the F22 was MANY, MANY times larger.

Anyways, I think a single missile should destroy or disable most choppers and planes. Would be nice if choppers spin out accordingly. I kinda hate it when they blow up midair and then the debris falls down. I'd kinda like to see the chopper or plane go out of control and crash.