Why are younger squad leaders/commanders not taken seriously?

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Post by Brummy »

[R-DEV]fuzzhead wrote:yea number 1 problem with young squad leaders - patience. they dont have it.

and the squeaky voice is just too much to take seriously when your getting shot at hehe
I've had experience with guys that were 18-22 and were swearing all the time about how PR sucked because there were no transports :|

It depends on the person 100%. I don't care if you're 10, 50 or whatever age, if you dance in-game, you're awesome :D
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Post by gazzthompson »

im younger than 90% of the guys i squad lead/command... but yea , a high voice is just annoying, some guy made a VOIP squad as SL with a real high voice, after 2 mins they all left.
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Post by Jantje|NL^ »

use a tissue in front of your mouth so it makes your voice older.

And than TK the older ones.

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Post by [T]blackflybro88 »

I dont care if the guy is younger than me as long as they know what the F@$# there doing
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Post by Wasteland »

NickO wrote:I find it very hard to tell the difference between a young boy and a young girl in VOIP tbh.
Yeah, I wondered for about a month about DesertFox. I figured a female would likely choose a name like that.

No joke.

Sorry DF.
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Post by SiN|ScarFace »

[R-MOD]Wasteland wrote:Yeah, I wondered for about a month about DesertFox. I figured a female would likely choose a name like that.

No joke.

Sorry DF.
lol Ditto.
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Post by icehollow »

Scorch wrote:Why does it happen? The other night on 7 gates i had someone quit my squad just because i was younger than they were. Do people just not like being commanded by someone younger than they are?
It's more of a matter of how pre-pubescent their voice sounds. That may sound nieve and close minded but IMO I can't stand listening to some whiny voice order me around, it's really irritating. I don't mind young players being SLs but if their voice is really whiny/high pitched I'm leaving the squad.\

Also I think it's a given that the older players tend to know what they're doing more often and have better tactics.
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Post by Scorch »

Tbh, i think i sound about a year older than i am. And 80% of the time i get good "reviews of my squads.
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Post by SiN|ScarFace »

No thanks, and dude it's not a big deal, so what if people can't stand taking orders from a kid, such is life.
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Post by Razick »

Engineer wrote:. But if you inhale helium and dare to use VOIP, I'm out of that squad. It just kills the "PR moment" for me to listen someone who shouldn't hold a gun in real life either.
Ah cmon guys we gotta cut them some slack at least they try. If you have a "squeek" leader give him a hand. The most experienced member should be walking him through and, if necessary, take a NCO role. Keep squad coordination and give suggestions to the "squeek" leader.

And dont judge a kids voice on how well he shoots. My nephew is 9 years old and can damn well shoot better than 80% of the people on here. 4 inch groupings at 100 yds no joke. I got a video somewhere ill post it.
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Post by lysander_atrull »

typicaly: patience, experience and man-management.

things teenaged brains generally (and I say generally!) are not so good at.
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Post by icehollow »

brummy.uk wrote:I've had experience with guys that were 18-22 and were swearing all the time about how PR sucked because there were no transports :|

It depends on the person 100%. I don't care if you're 10, 50 or whatever age, if you dance in-game, you're awesome :D
Im sorry, but I really just can't stand.... well picture this scenario , kid with most high pitch voiced possible, he's in your squad, and you're all under fire. Now imagine that squeaky voice going "oh **** dude! dude! DUDE! they're shooting at us DUDE! shoot that f!cker DUDE! OMG! F!cking die!" :o

Manage squad -> rubber band constricting ballsack dude -> kick from squad -> nothing personal. :-D

That might sound mean to some people but I guess if you think that's mean you have a higher tolerance to ear damaging frequencies.
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Post by SiN|ScarFace »

icehollow wrote: kid with most high pitch voiced possible, he's in your squad, and you're all under fire. Now imagine that squeaky voice going "oh **** dude! dude! DUDE! they're shooting at us DUDE! shoot that f!cker DUDE! OMG! F!cking die!" :o

I've experienced that and it is quite irritating, it's good that I am able to tune things out but yes when you are getting shot at and some child is screaming OMGGGG THEY ARE SHOOTING AT US!! I'm like no shit. Youngins have too much energy and most of it gets spent screaming like a girl. haha
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Post by Hides-His-Eyes »

Their voices are annoying and they whine about things.


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Post by KillaKev23 »

There are never bad squads, just bad squad leaders.. :P
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Post by Soulja »

90% of the time the reason is because a younger players actually isn't a good leader. Desertfox is probably the only good squadlead I've had that's young, most others seem to try to act like they know what they're doing and they don't and end up getting everyone killed. Just my opinion and experience of it though. I just think as a general fact older more mature players make better leaders.
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Post by Sgt_Canadian_Floss »

I dont care about the age of the squad leader, I'm 16
But when I hear squeaky voice, it dosent make me confiedent
I just dont feel safe + it annoys me
BUT
I already sticked to a squeaky SL and, no matter what I think, HE was a pretty good one.
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Post by kilroy0097 »

A sound synthesizer that is running in the background which makes the voice sounds an octave lower to replicate age. Now that would be the true geek method around the problem of a young squeaky voice. Now you just have to have the experience, skill and patience parts. :)
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Post by AfterDune »

kilroy0097 wrote:A sound synthesizer that is running in the background which makes the voice sounds an octave lower to replicate age. Now that would be the true geek method around the problem of a young squeaky voice. Now you just have to have the experience, skill and patience parts. :)
I believe it is possible to do that. I once had such an application installed, which was able to distort your voice, before "sending" it, so to say. Don't know if it's possible with BF2's voip, but should work with every app that uses mic-input, so worth a shot :p .

Can't recall the name... but I'm sure Google knows :) .
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