Vehicle mounted AGL

Ragni<RangersPL> · Post by **Ragni<RangersPL>** » 2008-02-08 22:51

(I've had some hard time to decide on which forum should I post it, so if it's wrong one please move it)

Vehicle mounted automatic grenade launchers (VMAGL).
Is it allowed to use it on asymmetrical maps, (community factions map probabaly). There is no more symmetrical balance in PR, so I thought it can be used on some maps.
Yes I know, there are no VMAGL at this time in PR but what if some of the community factions would like to introduce that kind of weapon system in their asymmetrical maps?

BTW.
I know there was couple suggestions about it but this time it's not a suggestion but rather a question.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-09 00:03

Never going to happen.

Ragni<RangersPL> · Post by **Ragni<RangersPL>** » 2008-02-09 00:48

Expendable Grunt wrote:Never going to happen.

Why? Any good reason?
I'm just searching for possibilities and I try to be openminded.... if you know what I mean

Never say never

SGT.JOKER · Post by **SGT.JOKER** » 2008-02-09 03:12

*cough*MK19*cough*

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2008-02-09 03:21

It would be realistic, but overall it really wouldn't add much to gameplay, and would require a whole new weapon to be modeled.

I'll say might happen, but don't expect anything.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-09 05:17

Think of the spam factor.

The same guys wanting it will be amongst the first to call for a nurf.

Post by **Ninja2dan** » 2008-02-09 05:18

I have always wondered why there weren't AGL's in the game yet. I'm not talking about why someone hasn't modelled it, but why nobody has even tried. With all of the updates and new items added, I'm sure something like the Mk19 wouldn't be too hard to integrate into the game.

I can see how some might argue that such a weapon system would be too powerful. But then again, is it that much more powerful than say a Linebacker or Warrior? If anything, an AGL requires even more skill to operate due to the fact that it's an indirect-fire weapon, not direct-fire. You can't just point and shoot one, you need to range properly and fire in bursts. They would not only allow better fire support, but the chassis (such as a Humvee) could be used as additional troop transport, which is already being claimed as severely lacking on most maps.

I don't think such a weapon system should be placed on all maps, but there are some current maps (and most likely future maps) that they would fit on quite well. I personally see few problems if any in regards to adding them in the future.

Mk19's are not hard to find in operational use either. There have even been several times I mounted one to our Paladin for live fire. Something you wouldn't see in a deployment zone, but a good sign as to how many can be found available in an arms room.

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2008-02-09 05:24

Ragni<RangersPL> wrote:Why? Any good reason?
I'm just searching for possibilities and I try to be openminded.... if you know what I mean

Never say never

because then one guy will wtfkpwnD a whole UberDupertactic00l squad by his own , reducing the tactical element of the game .

Post by **Ninja2dan** » 2008-02-09 05:33

77SiCaRiO77 wrote:because then one guy will wtfkpwnD a whole UberDupertactic00l squad by his own , reducing the tactical element of the game .

Does this not happen with the other weapon systems in the game, to include small arms? I don't see how any particular weapon system can be seen as more of a TK threat than another. At least AGL's have a minimum arming distance.

Swe_Olsson · Post by **Swe_Olsson** » 2008-02-09 08:32

thing is the AGL wouldnt be much different then an APC HEAT round really.

Post by **Jaymz** » 2008-02-09 08:55

SGT.JOKER wrote:*cough*MK19*cough*

No

SGT.JOKER · Post by **SGT.JOKER** » 2008-02-09 09:29

[R-DEV]Jaymz wrote:No

ah well...worth a shot I suppose lol

Ragni<RangersPL> · Post by **Ragni<RangersPL>** » 2008-02-09 11:45

1. NO to man portable AGL (sorry SGT.JOKER

).
2. The model itself will not be made by the DEVs.
3. Spam factor can be decreased by weapon overheat.
4. Indirect fire and deviation makes it less accurate than apc heat round
5. AGL would be mounted on heavy jeeps (like Humvee)
6. That kind of vehicle would be used only on some maps where two conventional armies are not symmetrically equiped (just like TOW Humvees on already existing maps).

Brummy · Post by **Brummy** » 2008-02-09 13:16

I'd rather have mortars

darkNight · Post by **darkNight** » 2008-02-09 13:38

Always No, No, No. God damn your NO!

Why not? Asked it myself a lot of times! Yeah sure... 1133377777-uberf##king-pr0s would statpad with it... no tactical background... hell... this is reality! Look at ArmedAssault or some other games!

You guys have absolutly no idea about sucha weapon.. it's not a 120mm Mortar! It's just a damn AGL...

But yeah! Don't add it! And please delete all rocket launchers, grenades and bullets in Project Reality!!1 Finally it could hurt somebody and we don't want no statpadding, hax00rs and pr000s!!!1

(HUN)Rud3bwoy · Post by **(HUN)Rud3bwoy** » 2008-02-09 13:48

darkNight wrote:Always No, No, No. God damn your NO!

Why not? Asked it myself a lot of times! Yeah sure... 1133377777-uberf##king-pr0s would statpad with it... no tactical background... hell... this is reality! Look at ArmedAssault or some other games!

You guys have absolutly no idea about sucha weapon.. it's not a 120mm Mortar! It's just a damn AGL...

But yeah! Don't add it! And please delete all rocket launchers, grenades and bullets in Project Reality!!1 Finally it could hurt somebody and we don't want no statpadding, hax00rs and pr000s!!!1

You want a lollipop?

Chill dude...

SGT.JOKER · Post by **SGT.JOKER** » 2008-02-09 17:29

Ragni<RangersPL> wrote:1. NO to man portable AGL (sorry SGT.JOKER ).

oh lol...I couldnt find a pic of it when it was on a humvee so I just used that, my mistake lol

Sabre_tooth_tigger · Post by **Sabre_tooth_tigger** » 2008-02-09 18:51

m203 is allready powerfull if you use it right, Ive often taken out squads with one shot.