Hand break for vehicles

General Dragosh · Post by **General Dragosh** » 2008-02-13 13:54

Sgt.Smeg wrote:Not so obviously mate. I'm not sure if this would fix the problem or make it worse. The amount that a vehicle slides down a slope should depend on a few things. Traction, mass and yes wieght. More wieght would surely cause more sliding down slopes? Gravity tends to pull things downwards.

And adding higher traction ?

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2008-02-13 14:14

The problem is being STATIONARY, you cant stop perfectly on a hill without the vehicle sliding. This undesired effect means that most vehicles slide sideways if parked at 90 degrees on a 2% slope which is unlikely considering the size of some of the tires on said vehicles.

In any car or tank just move to another spot and thing stops on a dime. For example in a 2 man tank have the driver hop in .50 cal seat and tank is no moving due to engine not being on.

SuperArmy · Post by **SuperArmy** » 2008-02-13 16:01

Yeh guys. the Hand break is to stop tanks jeeps etc sliding down hills when stopped...does not have to be a hand break but something to stop them sliding with all the crew members in it.

Smegburt_funkledink · Post by **Smegburt_funkledink** » 2008-02-13 17:01

General Dragosh wrote:And adding higher traction ?

Yeah, Dragosh's got it. I only hope this is possible.

LtSoucy wrote:In any car or tank just move to another spot and thing stops on a dime. For example in a 2 man tank have the driver hop in .50 cal seat and tank is no moving due to engine not being on.

This is fine if you dont have a full tank but is also an undesirable effect. esp' if you need to be at your crew station.

There's lots of similar motion/momentum/traction problems with the jets. When I first tried to land in PR, I overshot the runway a bit, couldn't stop in time. I was about to hit the fence (30-40 meters from me travelling at considerable speed) so I jumped out before the jet exploded. The thing was, it just stopped as soon as I got out. This could be to do with the vehicle stopping that was implemented a few patches ago to prevent people people from rolling empty C4 covered vehicles into the enemy.

This is why I call your "seat switching" solution "undesirable".

RCMoonPie · Post by **RCMoonPie** » 2008-02-13 17:57

Sgt.Smeg wrote:Not so obviously mate. I'm not sure if this would fix the problem or make it worse. The amount that a vehicle slides down a slope should depend on a few things. Traction, mass and yes wieght. More wieght would surely cause more sliding down slopes? Gravity tends to pull things downwards.

But the effect would be similar to anyone trying to drive with the parking break on......hilarious!!! If only we could smell the burning brakes!

SuperArmy · Post by **SuperArmy** » 2008-02-13 20:28

lol nice

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2008-02-13 22:11

The way BFA implements it would allow very unrealistic use of vehicles, but I imagine something could be done. It would be very useful, I'm all for it.

A-10Warthog · Post by **A-10Warthog** » 2008-02-13 22:17

this would be good. i cant count how many times ive been driving in a convoy of humvees at full speed. front one stops. one gets sandwiched in the middle from the first one and last one and BOOM car goes bye bye/.

Shotgun · Post by **Shotgun** » 2008-02-14 09:38

j turns FTW

kilroy0097 · Post by **kilroy0097** » 2008-02-15 05:18

Another thought on the subject of a hand brake.

First a key needs to be assigned to the function of the hand brake on the vehicle.
This will be a On and Off function only.

Hand Brake On:
The vehicle must not have any forward acceleration i.e. let go of "W" otherwise it will not deploy. Once deployed certain values in the vehicle immediately change. The wheel traction value triples and the weight of the vehicle should actually lighten slightly not get heavier. This helps in the stability and non-movement. The operator will not be able to move the vehicle with the hand brake on. They must disengage the hand brake first before being able to move at all.

This can be deployed at any time as long as "W" is not being pressed allowing the vehicle to make an emergency stop that is quicker than the normal braking of pressing "S".

Hand Brake Off:
Once the hand brake has been turned off the driver of the vehicle will be able to operate the vehicle as normal. All values return to normal and all standard attribute apply including not being able to go up simple inclines and not being able to maintain a position even on only a 10 degree incline and all the rest of that make vehicle traction and power broken in BF2.

SuperArmy · Post by **SuperArmy** » 2008-02-15 11:22

perfect example of what my first post is all about

thanks for explaining it better

SuperArmy · Post by **SuperArmy** » 2008-02-15 23:56

nothing is impossible

A-10Warthog · Post by **A-10Warthog** » 2008-02-16 00:02

Jonny wrote:Leave a three scond gap Warthog, just like RL. Its two seconds for the british driving test, but the easy way to count it is to look when the car in front passes a tree, count 1 one thousand 2 one thousand 3 one thousand, if you pass the tree before that then slow down.

when i drive long distances in pr i just set the cruise control and not pay much attention