[Kit] Ch-ch-chaaanges!

SuperTimo · Post by **SuperTimo** » 2008-02-19 16:13

[R-MOD]Bob_Marley wrote:Lies.

I have never stated that the weapon is produced in the middle east.

ouch!!

(two men in black suits come in and take expendable grunt to a secret place)

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-19 20:07

Bah, I remember Bob saying they where produced and or in use in the middle east.

Farks · Post by **Farks** » 2008-02-19 22:13

I don't quite like giving the H-AT at assualt rifle with optics. Sure, the H-AT has a deployment time, but that's not enough to make it harder to use.

Post by **Jaymz** » 2008-02-20 00:01

Farks wrote:I don't quite like giving the H-AT at assualt rifle with optics. Sure, the H-AT has a deployment time, but that's not enough to make it harder to use.

read the first post more closely, it clearly states "iron sights".

Razick · Post by **Razick** » 2008-02-20 00:12

I just hope this change doesnt cause the kit to be used like an assault kit. First couple weeks armor is gonna be a huge pain in the *** once the change goes through just watch.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-20 02:13

Nah, once someone realizes it can't be used like vBF2 "instafire" tubes, it'll stop being the new assault kit.

ReaperMAC · Post by **ReaperMAC** » 2008-02-20 06:21

Why not just give GB the British version of the M4? (The Spec-Ops weapon) and give it a 3-round burst like the USMC?

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-20 06:44

ReaperMAC wrote:Why not just give GB the British version of the M4? (The Spec-Ops weapon) and give it a 3-round burst like the USMC?

This might do for now.

Razick · Post by **Razick** » 2008-02-20 08:09

Expendable Grunt wrote:Nah, once someone realizes it can't be used like vBF2 "instafire" tubes, it'll stop being the new assault kit.

People still use the Spec Ops kit even though they get constantly owned at range. Stupid ppl dont get less stupider, they just get stupider somewhere else.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-20 08:19

Yes, however you can use all of the spec ops equipment on a whim.

Ironcomatose · Post by **Ironcomatose** » 2008-02-20 18:25

Razick wrote:People still use the Spec Ops kit even though they get constantly owned at range. Stupid ppl dont get less stupider, they just get stupider somewhere else.

Yeah kinda like rotten milk doesnt get less rotten if you put it in your pants...>_>...<_<...-_-

I think that most of these people are not stupid at all they just dont know any other way to play. I used to be a l337 guy too but once i started to play PR i learned. Most of these "stupid" people will learn too.

DeltaFart · Post by **DeltaFart** » 2008-02-20 22:26

That's what it tkaes to play this. Heck I dont even act as SL cause I know i dont't know enough, I can't micromanage so I let people who can do it, and learn from paying attention

TOME Malambri · Post by **TOME Malambri** » 2008-02-21 05:43

Razick wrote:People still use the Spec Ops kit even though they get constantly owned at range. Stupid ppl dont get less stupider, they just get stupider somewhere else.

I'm sorry but are you saying the spec ops kit is worthless? Lol what game have you been playing? Two firebase-owning slams and an m4 with good range sounds good to me. It has great range on single shot. Still shoots the NATO 5.56 round, same as the m16. Full auto is only handy within 20-30 feet, but is FAR from worthless.

Want to talk about a worthless gun in .7? The g3!

gclark03 · Post by **gclark03** » 2008-02-21 06:10

How stupid did they have to be to design a scope like the one on the AT4?

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-21 09:57

TOME Malambri wrote:I'm sorry but are you saying the spec ops kit is worthless? Lol what game have you been playing? Two firebase-owning slams and an m4 with good range sounds good to me. It has great range on single shot. Still shoots the NATO 5.56 round, same as the m16. Full auto is only handy within 20-30 feet, but is FAR from worthless.

Want to talk about a worthless gun in .7? The g3!

You get 3 slams

The older vets and I feel it's "worthless" because the less skilled players often take it over those who would fully apply it's abilities.

And the G3 is far from useless, it's just nobody stops to think about how it differs from the other weapons long enough to use it properly. Try digging into a location, then fighting from it.

Also, the L-AT are far from useless. Quite the opposite, really, this time around -- with the limited ability for HAT to track mobile targets, as well as HAT's lesser availability, the Rifleman AT, with his optic mounted assault rifle, fills a vital role. The biggest problem is that most players with this kit (myself included from time to time) almost feel the rocket burning a hole in their pocket (pocket rocket wooo), and often resort to firing the rocket at infantry (though I don't do this myself). The weapons, especially the UK and US ones, take some skill to properly use, but once you've mastered it, no light transport stands much of a chance.

The down side to this is that light transports have been playing a lesser role in .7, due to the uprising of support trucks, and to a lesser degree the APCs, which may come to pass once the light transports are properly modeled. Just practice a bit, and you'll get the hang of it.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-21 17:34

Ghost1800 wrote:ya, but thats what I mean. Against hummers, Vodniks, and Nanjings it's great... but you hardly ever see those anymore. Against APC's all you're really doing is pissing the crew off a lot before they swivel there turret in your direction and pump everything within 30 meters of your previous location full of heat rounds. The lessened ability of HAT doesn't really affect this in any noticeable way.

If they're doing that, you're doing it wrong. One LAT will seriously hurt an APC if you used it against the back; even against the side it causes it to begin smoking. You don't fire it and sit there in glee, you fire from a distance (at "half arc"), and relocate the second the rocket leaves the tube.

APC goes by.
You rise up, tube in hand.
Fire and move.
APC returns fire at an empty location.