black screen

[KP]

Its overly frustrating to watch a black screen for at least 30 seconds.

I dare say being dead would be pretty annoying too.

[hall0]

I have the same opinion like cat, the "blackscreen of death" just sucks.

Lots of guys here allways say that are just 30secs. But how cat discribe you get killed in a normal round more than one time. If i would get just one time killed i would also say: "who carres?" But very often one guy camps on the bunker/firebase/rally and the resulting deaths with the black screen are very annoying.

Dont get me wrong the black screen while you are real dead is a good thing. But to have these screen also when you are wounded. NO! Make a effect while watching the sky with a red frame with is become bigger and bigger from second to second up to the hole screen is just a red haze (5 seconds before you are dead) or one of these shader things. We all know since the new version the Devs like this effect

@Jay
Yes it would. We had this situation the versions before and i hade much more fun to watch the sky and see some guys running over my face and so on.

@KP
Sure it would. But its a game.

[OkitaMakoto]

Replace it with a bird view of the body, or some pre installed map overview cameras. Black screen punishes player for not being successful. If the only way to avoid this frustration is not to get shot then you are removing the fun for not very skilled players which is bad game design. Someone should have fun with the game even if he is unlucky enough or dumb to die often.

How about you look away from your monitor for 30 seconds. Im sure youll find better graphics. Come on guys, what the heck? It caused so many lame problems like giving someone the ability to tell their whole squad that the enemy picked up their limited/medic kit, they there were X number of them, etc. It was incredibly gamey.

You mean to say a birds eye view wouldnt be exploitable? With a 2Km view distance I dare say thatd be asking for someone to just point out and mark every enemy unit they see, from a nice vantage point.

Dying in PR DOES punish you. The black screen IS a form of punishment. you dont WANT to die. You SHOULDNT want to die. Sure it sucks, trust me, I agree with you, dying sucks. Which is why you should try to avoid it, and when it DOES happen, and it normally will, you must pay the consequences and wait for your respawn. *shrug*

[(HUN)Rud3bwoy]

What about just opening the map? Then you got something interesting. Select your spawn point, watch friendlies, whatever.

Yup, its not just better than a black screen, but it is also useful.

[cat]

Dying in PR DOES punish you. The black screen IS a form of punishment. you dont WANT to die. You SHOULDNT want to die. Sure it sucks, trust me, I agree with you, dying sucks. Which is why you should try to avoid it, and when it DOES happen, and it normally will, you must pay the consequences and wait for your respawn. *shrug*

Punish for unsuccessful playing = bad game design

I see waaaay to much elitist attitude and obsession with realism on the wrong side of the game. Death is something that will happen very often in a shooter, and the 30 sec timer is enough motivation to avoid it. Black screen completely shuts you off from the game which is not cool.

You can as well kick the player from server and shut down pc after eahc kill which would follow this line

[OkitaMakoto]

Punish for unsuccessful playing = bad game design

I see waaaay to much elitist attitude and obsession with realism on the wrong side of the game. Death is something that will happen very often in a shooter, and the 30 sec timer is enough motivation to avoid it. Black screen completely shuts you off from the game which is not cool.

You can as well kick the player from server and shut down pc after each kill which would follow this line

? Youre failing to see my point. Dying is bad. You dont want to do it. You want to value your life. Life is better than death.

this CANNOT be simply implemented in a game and therefore we need to go around things. Instead of death being not so bad, you add in LITTLE things like a black screen when you are dead. A black screen. If you want to not be bored, why are you more happy to look at a pixelated sky rather than the real world around you?

It has nothing to do with elitism, thats a cheap card to pull out, and its pulled out far too often on issues where people simply dont agree [deviation, kit requesting, building, black screen, rally points] Theres no wrong in disagreeing, but dont blame the others who support it for being elitist.

Punishment for unsuccessful playing? What do you think of starcraft? Mess up one thing in your build order and you WILL pay the consequences. its a game of strategy and tactics, thinking ahead. if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. Thats what so many people love about PR. The one who cares for his life and plays with the right mindset and technique will tend to come out on top. Thats how it is with ALL competitive gaming these days, always has been, always will. Losing sucks, winning is better.

[Longbow*]

Before introduction of black screen I was able to watch what are my squadmates are doing, by switching cam view and it wasnt that bad to wait for a long respawn time. PR is not a job or life, where you have to deal with your problems but you get paid\rewarded after. It is a game after all. It should be fun. Whats the fun to spent 10-15% of your playing time watching black screen?

[OkitaMakoto]

Before introduction of black screen I was able to watch what are my squadmates are doing, by switching cam view and it wasnt that bad to wait for a long respawn time. PR is not a job or life, where you have to deal with your problems but you get paid\rewarded after. It is a game after all. It should be fun. Whats the fun to spent 10-15% of your playing time watching black screen?

10-15%? Hmm, whenever I die I still talk on Voip. I talk with my squad about the game as it is, not what im currently seeing. When I die I dont just cross my arms, hold my breath and wait. If its a big deal, get up, stretch, grab a beer/water/juice. Something... its 30+ seconds. Its not a lifetime, nor is it a short time in terms of respawn in games these days. Use its nice middle ground to your advantage is all I can say.

You cant switch cam view in PR[even in version just prior to the black screen, unless youre on a private server I guess, but then youre already moving away from PR when youre on a locked server[in some respects]], so that doesnt hold any water and is irrelevant. The point is, a black screen is no worse than seeing a sky. The PLUS of a black screen is that you cant see what the enemy who just killed you is doing and relay it on to your living[not dead] squad

[Leo]

I still demand a game of pong or pac man should pop up when you die

[OkitaMakoto]

I still demand a game of pong or pac man should pop up when you die

now THAT I could go for[not really] Heheh

It doesnt allow you to help your squad out or survey, but it does give youa minute to just chill and play some good old fashion games

Although Id venture to say Hardcoded on that one

[Longbow*]

10-15%? Hmm, whenever I die I still talk on Voip. I talk with my squad about the game as it is, not what im currently seeing. When I die I dont just cross my arms, hold my breath and wait. If its a big deal, get up, stretch, grab a beer/water/juice. Something... its 30+ seconds. Its not a lifetime, nor is it a short time in terms of respawn in games these days. Use its nice middle ground to your advantage is all I can say.

You think thats good advice? Drinking something every time you're 'dead'? Imo too much drinking.

OkitaMakoto;641497']
You cant switch cam view in PR[even in version just prior to the black screen, unless youre on a private server I guess, but then youre already moving away from PR when youre on a locked server[in some respects]], so that doesnt hold any water and is irrelevant. The point is, a black screen is no worse than seeing a sky. The PLUS of a black screen is that you cant see what the enemy who just killed you is doing and relay it on to your living[not dead] squad

You can switch between your teammates 3D view in any BF2 mod, once you're completely dead (not critically wounded). Default key is C.

[OkitaMakoto]

You think thats good advice? Drinking something every time you're 'dead'? Imo too much drinking.

Hence why I said water and juice as alternatives[?] I'm stopping my responses now because it's not worth it to me. Once posts begin to point out small things like that its time to stop, something I and others need to work more on[stopping replies to a certain topic/thread when they realize it doesnt matter]

If you dont like a black screen and feel its a big problem, I'm sorry. Maybe you think that makes me elitist... I just know that I don't mind it and dont understand others getting so upset at its implementation...

[Jester_Prince]

Black screen ROCKS. squads are less aware of enemy positions, its more realistic and more fair. It wouldnt matter if the VOIP and chat could be disabled while dead but they cant as far as im aware....soooo black screen does most of the job.

Next Id suggest muting the sound...OR if possible adding an effect that makes it sound hollow and distant.

For players who wish to do something while dead...why dont you...BIG DEEP BREATH SHIRLY!

Read part of the PR manual
Post on these here forums
Spank the monkey
Wipe up the mess from the last time you died
Read up on squad tactics
Rethink what you did wrong last time that made you die in the first place and how you can avoid it
Rethink what kit you should take
Paint your fingernails that lovley shade of black you saw your sister wearing the other day
Comb your died black hair over your eyes
Rethink your Life
Go to the loo
Superglue your eye lids shut
Call an ambulance to unstick your eyeballs
Get something to eat
Go order a pizza
Put Dinner in the oven
Put out fire because said dinner is burning
Check your map to find out where other squads need support

There were constructive ideas in there aswell so dont flame me for usless posts...plus I was in a DrCox kinda mood.

M'kay Bethany

[DocBane]

Hehe good points there.

Personally I dont see why people are so annoyed by the black screen but I guess its personal preference. I do cheat though over voip by telling the rest of the squad where I think I got shot from an alerting them not to go anywhere near me unless theyre sure it's safe.

I just sit and wait and check the map where I can spawn and think some random stuff.

[GeZe]

Regarding what to do when dead...

I remember one person said they had dual monitors. Played PR on one and watched porn on the other. Sort of odd, but whatever works for you.

[Trunkz Jr]

Black screen ROCKS. squads are less aware of enemy positions, its more realistic and more fair. It wouldnt matter if the VOIP and chat could be disabled while dead but they cant as far as im aware....soooo black screen does most of the job.

Next Id suggest muting the sound...OR if possible adding an effect that makes it sound hollow and distant.

For players who wish to do something while dead...why dont you...BIG DEEP BREATH SHIRLY!

Read part of the PR manual
Post on these here forums
Spank the monkey
Wipe up the mess from the last time you died
Read up on squad tactics
Rethink what you did wrong last time that made you die in the first place and how you can avoid it
Rethink what kit you should take
Paint your fingernails that lovley shade of black you saw your sister wearing the other day
Comb your died black hair over your eyes
Rethink your Life
Go to the loo
Superglue your eye lids shut
Call an ambulance to unstick your eyeballs
Get something to eat
Go order a pizza
Put Dinner in the oven
Put out fire because said dinner is burning
Check your map to find out where other squads need support

There were constructive ideas in there aswell so dont flame me for usless posts...plus I was in a DrCox kinda mood.

M'kay Bethany

I think it would be kewl instead of black screen when your down (not dead), your eyes be able to fade in and out, like all distorted and stuff, while fading into black and a bit out (like make the screen as if your looking through your own eyes looking up) and of course when you die, make it a black screen.

[Jester_Prince]

OOOH fadeing in and out would be sweet when your wounded. would allow some sort of vision but not always and would imply your fadeing... though im not sure if your wounded youd be able to tell your squad mates the positions of the enemys....but all the same very nice idea on the visual side.

[OkitaMakoto]

Regarding what to do when dead...

I remember one person said they had dual monitors. Played PR on one and watched porn on the other. Sort of odd, but whatever works for you.

Masaq. That's Masaq. [I think? It's in someone's sig]

Good ideas list there, Jester.

[SevenOfDiamonds]

its perfect.

[GrayeKnight]

Regarding what to do when dead...

I remember one person said they had dual monitors. Played PR on one and watched porn on the other. Sort of odd, but whatever works for you.

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