Better Animations

SealWDX · Post by **SealWDX** » 2008-03-31 12:02

I think in PR not all but most of the animations are BAD.

1.When u take At Kit u have to w8 a few seconds to use ur kit, why we cant see how he prepare it to shoot?

2. Whenu are in a vehicle and get out it makes "plumpf" and u are on the ground, why we cant see that he open the dorr jump out and close the door?

3. When u destroy a Vehicle u can see a little bit of flames and smoke,
for me it must be a BIGGER BANG!

I know its not very easy to make these things, but if you can make these animations it would be a better game!

write your minds up.

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-03-31 12:08

The developer team is currently very short on animators.

Currently they have only 1 official + I think Fist knows how to animate.

Therefore unless you know how to animate yourself, I wouldn't expect too many improved animations anytime soon.

Post by **Spec** » 2008-03-31 12:14

Car door animations are probably hardcoded anyway, so are picking-up-kit animations.

And i rather have smoke and flames instead of a hollywood explosion.

General_J0k3r · Post by **General_J0k3r** » 2008-03-31 12:16

car door animations? where? nothing there => can't be hardcoded.
if you CAN animate, you should maybe step up and help. i myself cannot animate shit

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-03-31 12:22

Now I actually took a time to fully read through OP's post.

1. He doesn't mean kit swapping kits animation, he means animation for equipping H-AT. My previous answer applies to this point.
2. I believe this is 99% hardcoded (hardcoded=not possible to integrate in the current engine)
3. This ain't Hollywood

Reddish Red · Post by **Reddish Red** » 2008-03-31 12:24

Deadfast wrote:Now I actually took a time to fully read through OP's post.

1. He doesn't mean kit swapping kits animation, he means animation for equipping H-AT. My previous answer applies to this post.
2. I believe this is 99% hardcoded (hardcoded=not possible to integrate in the current engine)
3. This ain't Hollywood

Actually, he's half correct the current Car explosions are a bit lackluster:
YouTube - Mythbusters: Exploding Car - Hollywood vs. Real Life

Still, these are BF2 car explosions.. so unless someone makes alot of bits of every single vehicle, i doubt it will be done any time soon.

Post by **Mosquill** » 2008-03-31 13:00

Jonny wrote:The car doors, AFAIK, are NOT a seperate thing, so cannot be animated at all.

The animator, Mosqill, is currently working on more important things than car door animations anyway and acording to the DEVs there are plenty of new weapons that need animating before they are added to PR.

I belive DeadFast was referring to the OTHER animator, lol. The Devs don't seem to want any of my help (although I offered it).

DeltaFart · Post by **DeltaFart** » 2008-03-31 13:12

taht sucks......Why reject someoene who can help animate when your lacking them? bad idea i think

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-03-31 13:17

Mosquill wrote:I belive DeadFast was referring to the OTHER animator, lol. The Devs don't seem to want any of my help (although I offered it).

That's right, I was actually answering to every point in his post.
Besides, I have (or shall I say had after the edit

) there a typo that might confuse someone. Post instead of point.

And about that help: that, indeed, sucks.

EDIT @Reddish:
Took me a while to respond, I know, but the damn video wasn't loading.

Man, you can't compare THAT with normal explosion. That thing was armory on wheels! There were at least 10 kilos of explosives in there

Post by **Spec** » 2008-03-31 13:42

He doesn't mean kit swapping kits animation, he means animation for equipping H-AT. My previous answer applies to this post.

Oh, sorry. The "At" looked more like a misslepped "a" than like "AT" to me, sorry.

This ain't Hollywood

Actually, he's half correct the current Car explosions are a bit lackluster:
YouTube - Mythbusters: Exploding Car - Hollywood vs. Real Life

The problem is - why would a car explode? Most of the time you crash a car, get it destroyed by gunfire, rockets or grenades. There shouldnt be much of an explosion except the grenade's or the rocket's explosion, unless the car is full of explosives.

callumh · Post by **callumh** » 2008-03-31 14:06

alltho
YouTube - Massive car Explosion cool
that would be a nice jihad car explosion

The problem is - why would a car explode? Most of the time you crash a car, get it destroyed by gunfire, rockets or grenades. There shouldnt be much of an explosion except the grenade's or the rocket's explosion, unless the car is full of explosives.

YouTube - car EXPLOSION
no guns, rockets or explosives but still a big bang

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-03-31 14:09

Spec_Operator wrote: The problem is - why would a car explode? Most of the time you crash a car, get it destroyed by gunfire, rockets or grenades. There shouldnt be much of an explosion except the grenade's or the rocket's explosion, unless the car is full of explosives.

That's exactly the point.

Actually, I doubt there's too many ways to make a normal car (anything that doesn't contain explosives) explode.
You can shoot thousand of bullets through the car without even making it explode.
Maybe if you would be lucky enough you may hit a battery cable that would ignite the fuel. Tracer bullets should work as well, but whatever the cause would be, IMO the car would more of burn away than explode.

Depending on a used warhead a rocket might just fly through. If it would ignite the fuel the same thing IMO applies - the fuel would burn away.

I guess the same with grenade as it just creates a lot of shrapnels.

EDIT @callumh:
In the 2nd video that's a racing fuel (kerosene?). These things are way different from standart gasoline.

Post by **Rhino** » 2008-03-31 14:42

learn how to animate then come help us make better animations?

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-03-31 14:42

I know there's a 1 DEV specialized on animation (forgot your name, so whoever you are, sorry

).

Then I thought THE.FIST did animations for IDF but don't quote me on that.

markonymous · Post by **markonymous** » 2008-03-31 15:03

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:learn how to animate then come help us make better animations?

as we saw earlier in this thread that doesnt help.

CareBear · Post by **CareBear** » 2008-03-31 15:06

SpearHead is the R-DEV animator afaik

Jester_Prince · Post by **Jester_Prince** » 2008-03-31 18:00

Normaly cars dont explode, like someone said, they usualy just burn. the Myth busters vid didnt show what happens to a car when it simply has a crash or is shot at.

Cars do explode but its rare... even when hit by explosives things dont normaly explode like in hollywood... If anyone's read Bravo Two Zero, theres a quote in it somewhere ive looked but cant find it right now, but its something like "explosions arnt like they are in the movies" and that a fireball is only created if theres a secondary explosion.

Military explosives are apparently not very spectacular to watch. Its just a quick flash and lots of smoke and rubble.

Ive also seen a real car crash that ended in the car igniting into flames, it did NOT explode, it just burns the petrol very very quickly. You get a char grilled car lots of flames but no explosion.

Even when they do...
YouTube - Mercedes CL 500 CL500 on fire explodes blows up

YouTube - Plastic Explosives

Thats it. Again NO HUGE FIREBALL no one goes flying. Id say alot of the explosions in PR are just right, things just "pop" and thats it.

Even a JADAM is unimpressive its just dust and smoke

YouTube - Massive JDAM explosion.