Merlin bug in Huey =(

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Laggsy
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Post by Laggsy »

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:its a known issue, we will be looking into resolving it if possible for v0.8
OK thanks Rhino.

Any timescales for v0.8?

The merlin seemed to be fixed in the server side patch. Any server side patch planned for this issue, or is v0.8 not too far off?
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Post by Warmagi »

Ok, update on the "lag".
Huey is lagging for me aswell. Checked. Confirmed. BRING BACK BH!!!! ;)

Ive noticed that its not a problem with custom made flying machines, cause its not in planes nor it is in custom made small helicopters. What I noticed aswell is that cross motorbike on bashra is lagging for me the same as those two helicopters. Any one that is laggin can confirm that one?

Its like a cage in pilot seat which prevent information to get to you smoothly.
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Post by PARAMEDIC.CA »

[R-PUB]bosco wrote:I never had any lags in the Merlin and the Huey... hmmm...
Nor have I.. I see/hear a few persons talking about it in game and here on the forums. However, i thinks that the people who cry most about it in-game are nubs who just crashed.. lol :)
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Post by Rhino »

[R-DEV]PARAMEDIC.CA wrote:Nor have I.. I see/hear a few persons talking about it in game and here on the forums. However, i thinks that the people who cry most about it in-game are nubs who just crashed.. lol :)
hehe na its there, its really odd you just get a 1sec pause every 2secs and if i ever get it I just jump out the chopper and tell some one else to fly :p
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Post by beavis.uk^ »

I sometimes had lag issues with merlin, sometimes not... I currently haven't yet lagged in the huey, maybe a small amount, like a small fps drop every 3sec... But - "custom choppers lag", is not true... Littlebird? Doesn't lag...

But some ppl say its fine on local servers - as most people probably know, that narrows it down to some kind of confliction between packets(But why fps lag not ping?) on server to the player

Other than that, so far - thumbs up for everything
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Post by Warmagi »

I reinstalled whole BF2 and PR. I got rid of Huey lag from multiplayer. YAAAAAAY!!!!
For two rounds. It came back when I was later on Archer.... :( :( :( NOOOOO!!!
No helicopters for me... where is my BH...
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Random.. ehmmm... "player": Give me the chopper. No. I want to fly. No. But I want to, get out from it now or I TK you. ... ... ... No
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Post by Epim3theus »

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:hehe na its there, its really odd you just get a 1sec pause every 2secs and if i ever get it I just jump out the chopper and tell some one else to fly :p
Yeah i hoped it wast just because of the blinking light on the tail, because i lagged in that rythm, and my crappy PC. But no such luck i guess. Managed to land the thing after a round over the map, only to see the next pilot backflip it over the base.

No lag for me on the motorbikes, i absolutely love thoses. To bad they damage quit easely, so you can't do real stunts with them.
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Post by Alex6714 »

I get this sometimes. Seems to depend on the server and round, maybe like the squad bug but more frequent. Never happens in local servers.
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Post by markonymous »

bet its EAs way of making life miserable for mods!! lets kill them all!!!
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Post by Tomato-Rifle »

Its totaly random
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Post by GasseG »

I have heard that the lagging stops if you take down the dynamic shadow setting to a minimum.
Can this be confirmed pls! I dont fly myself but I wanna help you kids out :)
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Post by General_J0k3r »

this would support my theory that the merlin/huey lag is just due to crappy computers ;)
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Post by Fabryz »

I got a bit of lag in Huey on OpArcher, but it was the 1st round flight so i consider it "swaplag"...
The longest spikelag i had in that map was when i applied to be commander: switching to the comm's control panel took me about 20/30seconds :|
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Post by General_J0k3r »

Fabryz wrote:I got a bit of lag in Huey on OpArcher, but it was the 1st round flight so i consider it "swaplag"...
The longest spikelag i had in that map was when i applied to be commander: switching to the comm's control panel took me about 20/30seconds :|
it might have been the server. i noticed the same thing which does not happen on a local server though. also, it will take ages till the time to battle starts to count down.
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Post by pclipse_teh_owner »

zangoo wrote:seems like all the non-ea choppers lag.
Not for me, for me only the Merlin lags, the Huey is really nice :D
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Post by Cyrax-Sektor »

I've had pilots that requested no talking via VoIP or chat to reduce lag in the Merlin on Basrah. We hushed up and landed without a hitch.
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Post by Jester_Prince »

I belive i know the reason and a way to get past chopper lag... or atleast...solves it for me. I usualy find that if I fly around the entire map once before I do any clever flying... the lag stops, fly high but not high enough that the draw distance wont load in the map. Once or twice round the map usualy does it, once thats done... go do some serious flying.

Alternativly if you run around the whole map before you jump in a helo you wont get chopper lag.

Ive only really tried choppers on bashra and archer, however, they seem to be the maps with the biggest work load, and this seems to solve it.

You dont experiance this lag on foot because the map has time to load in all the models or something, slowly, in a chopper/motorbike the map has to load much quicker and your basicaly putting your comp through hell trying to catch up. Perhaps, all I know is this works for me.

Try ti and see if it works, alot of you may not experiance it some rounds because you havnt jumped into a chopper right away and have gone around enough of the map so you dont punish your computer.

Theres definetly something thats causing it, I suspect models but something like dynamic lighting could deffinetly be the culprit.
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Post by Warmagi »

Well what you describing Jester is due to low RAM. I do not experience this cause my RAM is high. No lag in planes or other choppers then Merlin and Huey. Strangly enough Huey on Jabal works fine for me.
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Random.. ehmmm... "player": Give me the chopper. No. I want to fly. No. But I want to, get out from it now or I TK you. ... ... ... No
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Post by Cyrax-Sektor »

With 1bg of RAM, I experience zero Merlin lag, and I piloted the heli at the very start of the game, giving no time to load the map, like Jester pointed out. That's a good theory, though, makes sense to a layman like me.
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Post by cat »

this would support my theory that the merlin/huey lag is just due to crappy computers
Alternativly if you run around the whole map before you jump in a helo you wont get chopper lag.

Ive only really tried choppers on bashra and archer, however, they seem to be the maps with the biggest work load, and this seems to solve it.

These are both wrong in my case. I have a prettey fast rig, and the map loading stutter was something normal on my old rig but the Merlin freezing is definately NOT caused by a slow rig. My new rig loads basra very very fast (I m usually the first in the game on a new map loading). I suspect some form of sound EAX related bug.
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