.8 question

xseeyax · Post by **xseeyax** » 2008-04-10 04:04

I have to ask, is there going to be more USMC maps? I would love to see more of those, because like all of the USMC ones have been turned into British maps.

Post by **Rhino** » 2008-04-10 04:13

In v0.75 there are currently more USMC maps than British maps.

The big difference is that most of the USMC are now getting really old and no one plays them etc where the brit maps are all new. This is mainly cos we have had to make alot of british maps over the past 4 or so releases so that we have a good even balance of british maps and USMC maps.

There are 19 maps in PR v0.75, and 11 of them are USMC maps.

In v0.8 there will be some new USMC maps BUT there will also (providing we finish them) be the US Army so a bunch of old USMC maps will be thrown over to US Army like Kashan Desert will most likly become a US Army map instead of the current USMC.

hope that helps.

xseeyax · Post by **xseeyax** » 2008-04-10 13:04

K thanks

Waaah_Wah · Post by **Waaah_Wah** » 2008-04-10 14:32

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:In v0.75 there are currently more USMC maps than British maps.

The big difference is that most of the USMC are now getting really old and no one plays them etc where the brit maps are all new. This is mainly cos we have had to make alot of british maps over the past 4 or so releases so that we have a good even balance of british maps and USMC maps.

There are 19 maps in PR v0.75, and 11 of them are USMC maps.

In v0.8 there will be some new USMC maps BUT there will also (providing we finish them) be the US Army so a bunch of old USMC maps will be thrown over to US Army like Kashan Desert will most likly become a US Army map instead of the current USMC.

hope that helps.

Wont some of the community modding projects be done by that time aswell? Like Russian and Canadian forces?

kilroy0097 · Post by **kilroy0097** » 2008-04-10 14:38

Very much looking forward to a distinct difference between the US Army and Marine Corps on different maps. Along with all the different vehicles. Such as a Bradley fighting vehicle for Army and those USMC maps keeping their APCs. Or different helicopters which has already been done with the Huey over the Blackhawk. I would also love to see a different in weapon loads for kits and different kits depending on branch. So much could be done with just the separation of US branches and even more as other country military forces are added.

Good job regardless. Looking forward to 0.8 and a bit of a change.

Keep in mind the player base need a fix for the current PB issues as well.

=Romagnolo= · Post by **=Romagnolo=** » 2008-04-10 16:09

I like both factions (US and UK), but I like more the M16, so, I looking foward to play in new US maps.

Shadow51585 · Post by **Shadow51585** » 2008-04-10 18:51

Interesting to say the least. Adding the US Army as a distinct faction aside from the USMC and giving them over to some of the older maps.

The mod at its core though was about British Forces if I've been informed correctly, so emphasizing them would not be a bad thing. The British rifles are quite good, so I'm good with any way they want to go even though I'm from the US. Heh.

Nice to see British vehicles being used BY British forces. I could never understand why in BF2SF the SAS were using an Abrams tank and Blackhawks.....

Looking forward to .8 very much!!

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » 2008-04-10 18:56

I'm pretty sure that the SAS does use US Blackhawks from time to time. Not sure on that though.

Still bring on the M4's with ACOG's

Fonveh · Post by **Fonveh** » 2008-04-10 19:46

Waaah_Wah wrote:Wont some of the community modding projects be done by that time aswell? Like Russian and Canadian forces?

I hope we soon see the Russian included in this mod. But Canada seems little strange, it is not exactly the first country I think of when I hear "warfare". Seems like a boring "unknown" country with boring people...

Scot · Post by **Scot** » 2008-04-10 19:51

The SAS use whatever they want really lol and yes they do get dropped in to missions by Blackhawks especially in Iraq as to be honest the US just have so many more resources! And also the brit rifles are so much better than US or MEC! At least i prefer them a lot!

Post by **Spec** » 2008-04-10 20:05

Fonveh wrote:I hope we soon see the Russian included in this mod. But Canada seems little strange, it is not exactly the first country I think of when I hear "warfare". Seems like a boring "unknown" country with boring people...

Canadian forces are realistic in this scenario, and new equipment is always fun. I mean, it only adds stuff to the mod, doesnt it? What would be better without a canadian faction? I think any new faction is good, as long as its done by the community and the devs dont have to waste too much time on it. No matter how important the faction is, it cant remove fun, only add. And if its the swiss navy.

Fonveh · Post by **Fonveh** » 2008-04-10 20:14

Spec_Operator wrote:Canadian forces are realistic in this scenario, and new equipment is always fun. I mean, it only adds stuff to the mod, doesnt it? What would be better without a canadian faction? I think any new faction is good, as long as its done by the community and the devs dont have to waste too much time on it. No matter how important the faction is, it cant remove fun, only add. And if its the swiss navy.

Yes, but the mod is already several gigs. If they decide to include every single small insignificant country it will in the end be very problematic for people to download.
I would much rather see Germany, Poland, Russia or Israel included.

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-10 20:17

AHHH not this again.
Canadian Forces are currently a major part of the NATO force in A-stan, I wouldnt call them 'insignificant'...

Fonveh · Post by **Fonveh** » 2008-04-10 20:22

[R-PUB]bosco wrote:AHHH not this again.
Canadian Forces are currently a major part of the NATO force in A-stan, I wouldnt call them 'insignificant'...

But would they really add that much to the game? They are English speaking, use mainly Us. equipment (with some exeptions), and their only contribution is against sheep-herding Afghans.
Also I doubt their 30 million population could contribute much to a large scale war against China and a Middle-eastern coalition.

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-10 20:24

By your logic, Germany and Poland shouldnt be in PR either...

Fonveh · Post by **Fonveh** » 2008-04-10 20:27

[R-PUB]bosco wrote:By your logic, Germany and Poland shouldnt be in PR either...

Poland is active in Iraq and Afghanistan. They have unique equipment, own language, population of 40 million.
Same with Germany, ALOT of unique equipment and a large population to boot. Both would be more interesting than Canada. Germany is also an economic power-house, capable of long large scale conflict.

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-10 20:28

Both do LESS fighting in A-Stan than Canada.

Fonveh · Post by **Fonveh** » 2008-04-10 20:30

[R-PUB]bosco wrote:Both do LESS fighting in A-Stan than Canada.

Did you read my other points?

Post by **Spec** » 2008-04-10 20:31

use mainly Us. equipment

Great, then the stuff is already in game and wont add much GB's.

A few guns and skins wont push the mods size anyways. The maps are much much bigger.

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-10 20:31

Fonveh wrote:Did you read my other points?

They're invalid as well, neither Germany nor Poland could fight MEC or China alone and wouldnt contribute more to a coalition than Canada.